Political Parenting: Greta Thurnberg edition

[Montegriffo]

The OG Greta back when holes in the ozone were the future demise of humanity.

...and the world came together to ban CFCs and repair the hole.
It's a great example of what you can do on a global scale when you accept the scientific evidence and work together to find solutions.
Same with acid rain, Northern forests were dying at an alarming rate so governments got together and did something about it. Right-wing governments too, Thatcher and Reagan led the cause.

Government action didn't solve those issues. It's a great example of you giving credit to something which deserves none of it.

What?
You think industry made changes of its own accord?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Hels ... _Emissions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conventio ... _Pollution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%8 ... _Agreement

[Smitty-48]

Nixonian FTW. Being a pussy who is too scarred to retaliate against his political enemies is just boring. Bring on the political food fight, I say.

I'm going to concur with the diagnosis of TDS

Trump is very American, in your face, Europeans don't like it, Brits don't like it, Canadians don't like it, etc

Europeans and Britons are passive aggressive, being openly aggressive is frowned upon, America is the opposite.

It's a downright womanly attitude.

Talk nice to your face and shit behind you back, that's conniving pussy shit.
Talk shit to your face and nice behind your back, that's what a man does.

Fuck Euro Pussy Faggots and the passive aggression they rode in on.

I think the origin is more class than gender.

Lower class Americans asserting that there is no classes as in Europe.

So they can say what they please to your face.

And they got guns to back it up.

[Speaker to Animals]

I think they actually did, dude. Once we figured out that fluorocarbon neutralizes ozone in the upper atmosphere, they transitioned to pump sprays. That doesn't mean we should not have put the laws on the books to preempt it, but it wasn't a huge cost for anybody to switch over.

Where you apparently need regulations is in nonwhite countries who don't give a fuck (e.g. China).

[Montegriffo]

I think they actually did, dude. Once we figured out that fluorocarbon neutralizes ozone in the upper atmosphere, they transitioned to pump sprays. That doesn't mean we should not have put the laws on the books to preempt it, but it wasn't a huge cost for anybody to switch over.

Where you apparently need regulations is in nonwhite countries who don't give a fuck (e.g. China).

China is making huge steps to increase air quality and reduce carbon output.

China has taken steps to dismantle coal-fired power plants, reduce overall emission levels and cut particulate-matter emission rates. Huge progress has been made on air quality, and there are now fewer smog days in China’s largest cities.

The former Ministry for Environmental Protection has been transformed into the Ministry of Ecology and Environment (MEE), a new entity with broader, clearer responsibilities. The new ministry will oversee all water-related policies, for example, from ocean resources management to groundwater. Previously, these were scattered among different departments. The ministry is also in charge of policies on climate change.

China needs an estimated additional RMB 40.3 trillion ($6.4 trillion) to RMB 123.4 trillion ($19.4 trillion) to finance the transition to a greener economy. It has started collecting an environment tax to help fund its environmental policies, and is also trying to attract more green investment.

China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), a massive global programme aimed at improving inter-connectivity between countries, inspired by the ancient Silk Road, seeks to boost trade and economic growth in Asia and beyond. As Vice Premier Liu He said at the World Economic Forum’s Annual Meeting in Davos this year, reducing pollution is one of China’s main strategic goals as it pursues this initiative, along with preventing major financial risks and alleviating poverty.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/04/ ... ere-s-how/

China hasn't pulled out of the Paris Agreement.

[Speaker to Animals]

I think they actually did, dude. Once we figured out that fluorocarbon neutralizes ozone in the upper atmosphere, they transitioned to pump sprays. That doesn't mean we should not have put the laws on the books to preempt it, but it wasn't a huge cost for anybody to switch over.

Where you apparently need regulations is in nonwhite countries who don't give a fuck (e.g. China).

China is making huge steps to increase air quality and reduce carbon output.

China has taken steps to dismantle coal-fired power plants, reduce overall emission levels and cut particulate-matter emission rates. Huge progress has been made on air quality, and there are now fewer smog days in China’s largest cities.

The former Ministry for Environmental Protection has been transformed into the Ministry of Ecology and Environment (MEE), a new entity with broader, clearer responsibilities. The new ministry will oversee all water-related policies, for example, from ocean resources management to groundwater. Previously, these were scattered among different departments. The ministry is also in charge of policies on climate change.

China needs an estimated additional RMB 40.3 trillion ($6.4 trillion) to RMB 123.4 trillion ($19.4 trillion) to finance the transition to a greener economy. It has started collecting an environment tax to help fund its environmental policies, and is also trying to attract more green investment.

China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), a massive global programme aimed at improving inter-connectivity between countries, inspired by the ancient Silk Road, seeks to boost trade and economic growth in Asia and beyond. As Vice Premier Liu He said at the World Economic Forum’s Annual Meeting in Davos this year, reducing pollution is one of China’s main strategic goals as it pursues this initiative, along with preventing major financial risks and alleviating poverty.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/04/ ... ere-s-how/

They also are dumping fluorocarbon into the atmosphere in huge quantities.

[StCapps]

I think they actually did, dude. Once we figured out that fluorocarbon neutralizes ozone in the upper atmosphere, they transitioned to pump sprays. That doesn't mean we should not have put the laws on the books to preempt it, but it wasn't a huge cost for anybody to switch over.

@Monte

The free market solved the problem, government intervention did not. Even if there was no law on the books, they would have switched over, the costs were not prohibitive enough to prevent it and financial gain to do so was obvious. StA knows.

Stop giving government intervention all the credit for something it had little or nothing to do with, while robbing those who truly deserve the credit. You hack bitch.

[C-Mag]

Sadistic Cults are the Hippest Cults

Greta Thunberg To Poor Countries: Drop Dead

Thunberg's blithe disregard for the benefits of economic growth is not uncommon for people from wealthy countries who are already living in an industrialized world built by the fossil fuels of yesteryear. For them, they associate additional economic growth with access to high fashion and luxury cars. But for the billions of human beings living outside these places, fossil-fuel-driven industrialization can be the difference between life and death.

STOP STEALING MUH CHILDHOOD



gtfoh

See kids fight each other for an empty gatorade bottle so they can have something to carry water in. I bet Greta never had to do that.

[Montegriffo]

I think they actually did, dude. Once we figured out that fluorocarbon neutralizes ozone in the upper atmosphere, they transitioned to pump sprays. That doesn't mean we should not have put the laws on the books to preempt it, but it wasn't a huge cost for anybody to switch over.

Where you apparently need regulations is in nonwhite countries who don't give a fuck (e.g. China).

Industry wasn't going to do shit until the regulations were brought in. You think hairspray companies gave a shit about the ozone layer?

[StCapps]

I think they actually did, dude. Once we figured out that fluorocarbon neutralizes ozone in the upper atmosphere, they transitioned to pump sprays. That doesn't mean we should not have put the laws on the books to preempt it, but it wasn't a huge cost for anybody to switch over.

Where you apparently need regulations is in nonwhite countries who don't give a fuck (e.g. China).

Industry wasn't going to do shit until the regulations were brought in. You think hairspray companies gave a shit about the ozone layer?

The costs to implementing the regulations were negligible. DuPont was planning to switch over and then pushed for the regulations because they knew the competition was not quite as prepared and they would gain market share since they were the closest to making the switch. You seem to think that corporations hate good PR when it's really cheap, but they don't, that makes them money. All the regulations did was temporarily stifle DuPont's competition, the market solved the problem, not the regulations.

[clubgop]

I think they actually did, dude. Once we figured out that fluorocarbon neutralizes ozone in the upper atmosphere, they transitioned to pump sprays. That doesn't mean we should not have put the laws on the books to preempt it, but it wasn't a huge cost for anybody to switch over.

Where you apparently need regulations is in nonwhite countries who don't give a fuck (e.g. China).

Industry wasn't going to do shit until the regulations were brought in. You think hairspray companies gave a shit about the ozone layer?

The costs to implementing the regulations were negligible. DuPont was planning to switch over and then pushed for the regulations because they knew the competition was not quite as prepared and they would gain market share since they were the closest to making the switch. You seem to think that corporations hate good PR when it's really cheap, but they don't, that makes them money. All the regulations did was temporarily stifle DuPont's competition, the market solved the problem, not the regulations.

All I do is virtue signal because I am a great person but an evil corporation would never virtue signal until we nag them endlessly.