Poll: Who Supports the Idea of a White Ethno State?

[Speaker to Animals]

(yes, you are, and fuck off with any attempts to balk at it)

[StCapps]

Yet I balk anyway, too preposterous of a statement not to balk at. I guess you stating that I can fuck off with balking at it, won't actually cause me to listen to you.

I don't respect your authoritah, deal with it.
/shrugs

I think you're just mad I trolled you with the "Grumpy played you" deal, and now are coming at me in every thread with your bullshit Strawman Capps psychoanalysis. Cross thread snipe much? It's so easy to get under your skin, and then you go on tilt for weeks at a time, in every thread, as if you are out to prove that to everyone? Keep embarrassing yourself, while thinking you are really winning, whatever helps you sleep at night.

[Speaker to Animals]

When it gets down to brass tacks.. most Americans are ethno-nationalists. Just because you have the MSM, Hollywood, and television constantly pushing the Multicult propaganda doesn't mean you somehow represent the default position.

Most of the democratic base now is ethno-nationalist -- just not white nationalist.

When you just look at the situation in terms of ethno-nationalists versus globalists, globalists are the minority. Spitballing here, but you get the idea: I'd guess roughly 35% of the democratic electorate is white. Of the black and Latinos that make up the majority demographics of the democratic electorate, most of those are to some degree sympathetic to black and Latino nationalism.

Just going looking at the voting public, I'd guess maybe 15-20% of them are actually supportive of true "multiculturalsm" as it is officially promulgated by the media. Most of the left are extremely supportive of ethno-nationalism as long as it is not white nationalism.

If you look at the surge in support for the GOP pretty much across the board (yeah, dems are looking at an electoral apocalypse in the midterms), most of that is being driven by the desire to halt this immigration policy. It's being driven by working and middle class whites who have had enough of the livelihoods being handed over to foreigners.

I'd guess that most of the non-voting public is extremely ethno-nationalist. I doubt most ethno-nationalists of any race or culture even bother voting when the choices are all genocide.

I am pretty sure Trump is going to fuck this up because he is, at heart, a civic nationalist who still believes in this nonsense, but the end result of his failure I strongly suspect will be that the GOP becomes a red-pilled party that includes some inclination towards ethno-nationalism. Maybe not for the entire United States, but the idea that we can still have this E. Plurabus Unum concept but individual communities and areas should be free to associate as they wish. It makes a lot of sense to me, for example, to give black nationalists what they want, a new black region that belongs to them.

It really blows my mind that the people constantly signaling themselves as the "moral good guys" in this are the ones who want to crush the freedom of association, limit the free choices of people to form communities as they wish, and even to utterly destroy entire cultures and races for the sake of some utopian political ideology. Few people yet have the independence of thought to step back and just look at this for what it is. Most people choose to associate with their own kind. Most people marry into their own race (even when, in our cases, white women are pretty fucking horrible compared to Hispanic women, for example). Most people don't believe in this even at the instinctual level. They might signal that they do on the internet, but their own life choices indicate otherwise. They live in communities made of their own race for the most part. They married somebody of their own race for the most part. People vary at the individual level and with specific choices, but the overall trend is pretty obvious.

[StCapps]

Most Americans are not ethno nationalists, nor do they want America to break up into separate regions based on ethnicity.


You live in a fantasy world, you're like one step from John Titor himself.

[Speaker to Animals]

I just explained to you why I think that. You have no argument against it? That's cool. You are wasting the forum time, then.

People reading this can read an argument and then your feelz and choose for themselves.

[StCapps]

I just explained to you why I think that. You have no argument against it? That's cool. You are wasting the forum time, then.

People reading this can read an argument and then your feelz and choose for themselves.

Your argument fails to prove your assertions, prove me wrong, that is not an argument. People are free to judge for themselves, but the only allies you will gain are SIFCLIFs who think the sky is falling because of non-white immigration into majority white nations, but most of them will not agree with your interpretation of me as a liberal, so you might want to stick to your immigration fear mongering instead.

If most Americans were ethno-nationalists, they'd be voting for ethno-nationalist politicians, who were pimping ethno-nationalist political platforms to pander to majority of Americans who were ethno-nationalists.

But that is not happening, so obvious fringe minority is obvious. Most of the folks who voted for Trump were not ethno-nationalists, not even close. You might have ethno-nationalist inclinations, but don't project them on everyone else, that leads to ridiculous analysis because most Americans do not think like you do and nor do most Trump voters.

[Speaker to Animals]

I showed my reasoning quite clearly:

Most of the nonwhite democratic party electorate is, at the very least, supportive of ethno-nationlism as long as it's not white nationalism. Quite a lot of them are avowed ethno-nationalists, such as La Raza and BLM.

Most of the nonvoting public is decidedly ethno-nationalist. Most black people are ethno-nationalists. More Latinos are ethno-nationalists.

Of whites, even those who profess civic nationalism, their choices belie the reality: they marry within their own race for the most part; they live in white neighborhoods; etc. There's obviously variation. Maybe somebody married a Hispanic but still lives in a white neighborhood. But I have seen Multicult heaven (Chicago) and -- guess what? -- most of the whites live in white neighborhoods, most of the blacks live in black neighborhoods, and most of the Hispanics live in Hispanic neighborhoods.

The surge of voters that accompanied Trump into the GOP were mostly whites who have had enough of their lives ruined by mass migration. They want that fucking wall built and they want the non-citizen foreigners to get sent packing (now).

The truth is all around you, cupcake. People generally want to be with their own kind.

[Speaker to Animals]

So much truth in that.

[Speaker to Animals]

This is the showcase Latino democrat speaking to his constituents at a La Raza event in 2014:

Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) believes Hispanics should get amnesty and citizenship to punish Americans who are against illegal immigration.

After he told the La Raza conference in Los Angeles that President Barack Obama gave the Latino community a “down payment” with his temporary amnesty program that halted the deportations “of our people,” Gutierrez urged Hispanics to seek retribution at the ballot box.

Gutierrez addressed the conference this weekend and also spoke on a panel. He said Obama assured him in a White House meeting last week with the Congressional Hispanic Caucus that he would use executive actions to be a “generous and broad” as he can to “stop the deportation of people each and every day,” as Breitbart News reported.

Gutierrez has been one of the biggest proponents of a pathway to citizenship for all of the country’s illegal immigrants.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... migration/

If Latinos are not so supportive of ethno-nationalism, then why do they support and elect ethno-nationalist politicians? That's a real head-scratcher. If most Americans are against ethno-nationalism, it's strange that we have politicians like Guitierrez speaking at ethno-nationalist conventions with no real criticism from anybody but a few minor Internet blogs.


Then there is Congressman Ellison, who almost became the leader of the democratic party last year:

Finally, blacks would have the option of choosing their own land base or remaining in the United States. Since black people toiled most diligently in the southeastern section of the United States, this land, quite naturally, would be most suitable. That means Arkansas, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana and Mississippi. Blacks, of course, would not be compelled to move to the black state, and, of course, peaceful whites would not be compelled to move away.”

http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/30/exclu ... ack-state/


Black constituents who vote democrat don't seem to have any trouble electing black nationalists to office and the entire democratic party was okay with almost setting that guy up as the leader of the democratic party. If the democratic party was almost led by a black nationalist, how can you claim the democratic party as a whole doesn't support ethno-nationalism? The obvious answer is that you cannot. (And I don't really disagree with that quote either. I don't have to be ashamed about looking at our situation with realism since I have no connection to the Multicult whatsoever).


White liberals are just deluding themselves that this multicult is even viable. Nobody but a minority of people actually believe this stuff. You have to ignore all the obvious counterfactuals to carry on with this delusion. Obviously most Americans are supportive of ethno-nationalism to some degree, even if only subconsciously based upon their life choices.

[Penner]

How white do I need to be, where do you draw the line?

That is a good question to ask Nuke since I see Jewish people as being white but Nuke seems to have some issues with Jewish people. Also, would this new white ethno state have to be Protestant or Catholic? Because if it is going to be Catholic we should invite the Mexicans in since, they are also (partly) descended from people from Spain. Or at least I have heard.