If you kill your enemies they win

[SuburbanFarmer]

If you kill your enemy, you'll win against that enemy. But, if you throw away everything you stand for in order to do it, then it's a phyrric victory.

Think Batman and the Joker. Bats could whip out a gun at any time and now down the bad guys, but then he'd just be one of them.

In our case, there's also the possibility that we make enemies of 1.6 billion human beings. That's a battle that cannot be won.

[Martin Hash]

I don't think you've been paying attention, they're already our enemy. They know that, we just don't know that. We've got our fingers in our ears, whistling.

[SuburbanFarmer]

I don't think you've been paying attention, they're already our enemy. They know that, we just don't know that. We've got our fingers in our ears, whistling.

As I've stated many times now - if we were "at war" with a billion people, then we would be dead. It is that simple.

And every time we blow up and rant about how evil Islam is, or bomb another city for freedom, we get a step closer to that.

No, I will not call for surrender. No I am not giving away my country. But you don't approach that problem with guns out. You look at the root cause and fix it.

Is Islam inherently against us? Of course not, or we would have been dealing with this shit since the Reformation. (No, StA, we haven't)

What changed? Well, obviously, we've been ass-fucking the entire region since WWI, and haven't even offered some spit. How many dead kids, torture palaces, and dictators do you expect people to put up with?

Right now, it's still manageable, and we could possibly avert a true disaster. But we won't. Our arrogant neocon Jesus freaks will keep pounding the table for a "crackdown", which will blow up in our faces, like every other crackdown.

Why? Because they are incapable of seeing these people as fellow humans. They've dehumanized them into A Problem, and convinced themselves that we just need to scare them all really, really bad, and they'll all go away to die.

Solutions? Well, unless you can create a legitimate third party, or summon Jesus, no. We're on track for once-in-a-civilization levels of idiocy.

[clubgop]

In our case, there's also the possibility that we make enemies of 1.6 billion human beings

Overdramatic bitch much?

But you don't approach that problem with guns out.

Oh no, not guns! Never guns! Take them, take them!

[clubgop]

Our arrogant neocon Jesus freaks will keep pounding the table

Fuck man, you are like the dumbest motherfucker ever.

[Martin Hash]

convinced themselves that we just need to scare them all really, really bad, and they'll all go away to die.

This does seem to be the tactic of NeoCons, "Shock & Awe." These are the big-kids in 7th-Grade Gym who never grew out of being bullies.

p.s. And we're in an ideological battle with THE WORLD right now, and internally: liberty vs. socialism.