Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by PartyOf5 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:06 pm

Between 2009 and 2022 it has been 5%.

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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by The Conservative » Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:50 pm

And if a division of the market crashes, it's a bad thing...
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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by SilverEagle » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:17 am

The Conservative wrote:
Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:44 pm
SilverEagle wrote:
Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:01 pm
New, not existing. ARMs that were closed a year ago and before would be the ones in real danger.
Even if it's 5% of 2 Trillion dollars total, it doesn't matter, it will hurt.
But it’s not an economy killer. Crashes never happen the same way twice.
There is a time for good men to do bad things.

For fuck sake, 1984 is NOT an instruction manual!

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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by The Conservative » Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:18 am

SilverEagle wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:17 am
The Conservative wrote:
Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:44 pm
SilverEagle wrote:
Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:01 pm


New, not existing. ARMs that were closed a year ago and before would be the ones in real danger.

Nothing big starts off big.
Even if it's 5% of 2 Trillion dollars total, it doesn't matter, it will hurt.
But it’s not an economy killer. Crashes never happen the same way twice.
Nothing big starts off big.
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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:46 am

TheOneX wrote:
Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:31 am
ARMs will go up as interest rates go up. It doesn't make sense to get an ARM when interest rates are low, like they have been since 2008. It makes much more sense when they are high, like they are trending now. That 10% number is from mid-2022 when interest rates were already going up. As they get higher more people will get ARMs as they are more likely to benefit in the future when interest rates drop again.
Logical but imagine the cope going on to take out one of these!?

FYI, in 1982 the interest rate on my first mortgage was 22% fixed.
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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by The Conservative » Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:00 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:46 am
TheOneX wrote:
Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:31 am
ARMs will go up as interest rates go up. It doesn't make sense to get an ARM when interest rates are low, like they have been since 2008. It makes much more sense when they are high, like they are trending now. That 10% number is from mid-2022 when interest rates were already going up. As they get higher more people will get ARMs as they are more likely to benefit in the future when interest rates drop again.
Logical but imagine the cope going on to take out one of these!?

FYI, in 1982 the interest rate on my first mortgage was 22% fixed.
23% with 650 ceedit here for my csr loan. Took iy out last month.
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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by TheOneX » Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:00 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:46 am
TheOneX wrote:
Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:31 am
ARMs will go up as interest rates go up. It doesn't make sense to get an ARM when interest rates are low, like they have been since 2008. It makes much more sense when they are high, like they are trending now. That 10% number is from mid-2022 when interest rates were already going up. As they get higher more people will get ARMs as they are more likely to benefit in the future when interest rates drop again.
Logical but imagine the cope going on to take out one of these!?

FYI, in 1982 the interest rate on my first mortgage was 22% fixed.
Yeah, I think in general I think interest rates should be higher. Low interest rates are the prime culprit for unaffordable housing. It has turned housing into an investment, so people are willing to pay much more than the actual value of the house, and are able to with easy access to debt.

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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by The Conservative » Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:05 am

TheOneX wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:00 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:46 am
TheOneX wrote:
Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:31 am
ARMs will go up as interest rates go up. It doesn't make sense to get an ARM when interest rates are low, like they have been since 2008. It makes much more sense when they are high, like they are trending now. That 10% number is from mid-2022 when interest rates were already going up. As they get higher more people will get ARMs as they are more likely to benefit in the future when interest rates drop again.
Logical but imagine the cope going on to take out one of these!?

FYI, in 1982 the interest rate on my first mortgage was 22% fixed.
Yeah, I think in general I think interest rates should be higher. Low interest rates are the prime culprit for unaffordable housing. It has turned housing into an investment, so people are willing to pay much more than the actual value of the house, and are able to with easy access to debt.
There is a fine line between high-interest rates and house value. I am not sure we are going to see a balance for this for a while.
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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:46 am

TheOneX wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:00 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:46 am
TheOneX wrote:
Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:31 am
ARMs will go up as interest rates go up. It doesn't make sense to get an ARM when interest rates are low, like they have been since 2008. It makes much more sense when they are high, like they are trending now. That 10% number is from mid-2022 when interest rates were already going up. As they get higher more people will get ARMs as they are more likely to benefit in the future when interest rates drop again.
Logical but imagine the cope going on to take out one of these!?

FYI, in 1982 the interest rate on my first mortgage was 22% fixed.
Yeah, I think in general I think interest rates should be higher. Low interest rates are the prime culprit for unaffordable housing. It has turned housing into an investment, so people are willing to pay much more than the actual value of the house, and are able to with easy access to debt.
Nice analysis. As an example, I had a 22% mortgage but the house was cheap and we paid it off fast.
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Re: Supply Chain Shortages and Inflation

Post by PartyOf5 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:08 am

A number of companies are reporting string earnings this week. This is probably due to inflation resulting in greater income, although GM was strong due to finally getting some inventory and pent up demand.

On the surface, strong earnings reports sound good. Democrats are sure to spin it as the economy is doing fine. My feeling is that people will still be spending through Christmas. When the bills come due in early 2023 is when we will see the recession that even Democrats and their new definitions can't deny. By then they won't care, because the elections will be over.

Anyone else have thoughts on what's coming?