Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by C-Mag » Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:52 am

Antifa is a decentralized Communist organization.
Read their own documents on forming a group https://itsgoingdown.org/forming-an-ant ... -a-manual/

Then read their organizing documents https://itsgoingdown.org/wp-content/upl ... evised.pdf
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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by BjornP » Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:35 am

C-Mag wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:52 am
Antifa is a decentralized Communist organization.
Read their own documents on forming a group https://itsgoingdown.org/forming-an-ant ... -a-manual/

Then read their organizing documents https://itsgoingdown.org/wp-content/upl ... evised.pdf
Your site explicitly says that that group is majority anarchist:
POLITICAL ORIENTATION
The anti-fascist movement has come from multiple theoretical currents; it is based on an agreement on tactics, not ideological uniformity. In the U.S., most activists are anarchist, although a few are Maoist or anti-state Marxists. (In other countries, the movement is predominately Marxist.)There is a general agreement to live and let live regarding political disagreements that would be divisive in other activist circles.
Both anarchists and Communists are however united by the desire to bring down the government of Western liberal democracies, although should they succeed, they'd of course be fighting each other given the difference in views of government between most Communists and anarchists (reference Spanish Revolution and how Communists turned on anarchists and other left-wing former allies).

And the site is a guide on how others can set up antifa groups. Again, that's the difference between movement and organization. You can't cast the net too wide. You have to target, say, the specific "Seattle Antifa Group #1" and charge that group with promoting terrorism. Or... the online manual of the website you just linked to, for that matter. But if there's just one antifa group that don't fit the bill of terrorist - which I presume involves organized violent political action against people and property - then designating everyone who is antifa as terrorist isn't a workable solution. You need to get specific.
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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by C-Mag » Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:53 am

I get ya. But these cats are backed by money. Money leaves a trail. It's a network. An organization.

You don't coordinate nationwide riots without it. With pallets of bricks being delivered to strategic locations.

The DOJ will follow the money trail. Hell, there is enough intel in the Project Veritas tapes to show associations and intent.
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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by BjornP » Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:14 am

They probably stole the pallet of bricks. I've seen anarchists in action. Antifa have been known here for several decades. I visited a popular anarchist/antifa stronghold (now torn down) in '00 in Copenhagen. They kept loads of crowbars around, as well as homemade helmets and shields (they were preparing a protest, so I don't know how common that was the rest of the time). But you can quickly gather up a lot of bricks and large stones from cobbled streets with a crowbar. It doesn't actually take a whole lot of money nor professional organization skills to plan that. Just requires discretion. After all, you're simply stealing the bricks. Odds are, someone filed a theft of a pallet of bricks around that time.

Feel free to try and connect other organized forces, if you like. I suspect you could connect to Russia, China, Iran, the EU, or George Soros, the Clintons, Obama and the DNC. You just don't really need some powerful shadowy backer to be able to gather money and a pallet of bricks, though.
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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by C-Mag » Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:26 am

I'll agree to disagree.

We'll see over time.
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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:22 am

Here's what decentralized security looks like.

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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by C-Mag » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:28 am

Good for them
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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by The Conservative » Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:57 pm

BjornP wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:14 am
They probably stole the pallet of bricks. I've seen anarchists in action. Antifa have been known here for several decades. I visited a popular anarchist/antifa stronghold (now torn down) in '00 in Copenhagen. They kept loads of crowbars around, as well as homemade helmets and shields (they were preparing a protest, so I don't know how common that was the rest of the time). But you can quickly gather up a lot of bricks and large stones from cobbled streets with a crowbar. It doesn't actually take a whole lot of money nor professional organization skills to plan that. Just requires discretion. After all, you're simply stealing the bricks. Odds are, someone filed a theft of a pallet of bricks around that time.

Feel free to try and connect other organized forces, if you like. I suspect you could connect to Russia, China, Iran, the EU, or George Soros, the Clintons, Obama and the DNC. You just don't really need some powerful shadowy backer to be able to gather money and a pallet of bricks, though.
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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by The Conservative » Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:59 pm

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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by The Conservative » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:32 am

This guy is an idiot or a genius.

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