Chinese propaganda on TikTok

[Martin Hash]

Intended to indoctrinate kids: (you freedom-haters will probably agree.)

[Zlaxer]

What percentage of Chinese 20-30 year olds believe this shit, and what percentage of same aged Americans?

DNC has made it clear that free speech is dangerous and needs to be “regulated”.

There is a great evil serpent rising in the east....

[BjornP]

What percentage of Chinese 20-30 year olds believe this shit, and what percentage of same aged Americans?

DNC has made it clear that free speech is dangerous and needs to be “regulated”.

There is a great evil serpent rising in the east....

From a few primary sources (older Soviet bloc nationals) and what I've read elsewhere, alot of adult members of Soviet society knew that they were only being fed either a lie or a highly manipulated version of the truth. They learned to navigate it, for example if state media phrased something a certain way, they could deduce how/what was being manipulated with. Government can control your expressions, but not your thoughts.

I suspect that Chinese people are as capable of critical thought as people who live in free societies, but since any sort of polling data of Chinese nationals being disaffected with government would lead to lengthy prison sentences - or death depending on if they were say, pro-democratic and vocal about it - that for most people would work as a deterrent.

I think the vast majority of kids in both US and Europe who use the app, use it simply to increase their online "fame" in some way. They might be susceptible to vacous pro-Chinese narratives if they're presented in a - to kids - appealing way, but generally, looking at the app's history and nature, it doesn't seem like a place that has alot of youths seeking out Chinese propaganda just to be contrarian.

Here's an overview of the apps history, btw:

https://www.businessinsider.com/tiktok- ... ing-2019-7

Lots of sensible reasons not to use it in that article. I'm not too savy on whether or not they really invade your privacy and mismanage your personal data in a worse way than f.ex. FB, but if so, I'd think that alone is a reasonable reason to forbid your teenage (I assume young kids aren't allowed to use it) children to use it.

[Martin Hash]

Of course, full propaganda control of media works, i.e. TDS.

[clubgop]

What percentage of Chinese 20-30 year olds believe this shit, and what percentage of same aged Americans?

DNC has made it clear that free speech is dangerous and needs to be “regulated”.

There is a great evil serpent rising in the east....

From a few primary sources (older Soviet bloc nationals) and what I've read elsewhere, alot of adult members of Soviet society knew that they were only being fed either a lie or a highly manipulated version of the truth. They learned to navigate it, for example if state media phrased something a certain way, they could deduce how/what was being manipulated with. Government can control your expressions, but not your thoughts.

I suspect that Chinese people are as capable of critical thought as people who live in free societies, but since any sort of polling data of Chinese nationals being disaffected with government would lead to lengthy prison sentences - or death depending on if they were say, pro-democratic and vocal about it - that for most people would work as a deterrent.

I think the vast majority of kids in both US and Europe who use the app, use it simply to increase their online "fame" in some way. They might be susceptible to vacous pro-Chinese narratives if they're presented in a - to kids - appealing way, but generally, looking at the app's history and nature, it doesn't seem like a place that has alot of youths seeking out Chinese propaganda just to be contrarian.

Here's an overview of the apps history, btw:

https://www.businessinsider.com/tiktok- ... ing-2019-7

Lots of sensible reasons not to use it in that article. I'm not too savy on whether or not they really invade your privacy and mismanage your personal data in a worse way than f.ex. FB, but if so, I'd think that alone is a reasonable reason to forbid your teenage (I assume young kids aren't allowed to use it) children to use it.

Never underestimate the power of rich white liberals or people that want to be like them to suck this shit up like the vacuum of space.

[BjornP]

Never underestimate the power of rich white liberals or people that want to be like them to suck this shit up like the vacuum of space.

Yeah, that would seem like the most rational venue into propagandizing Western youths. 15 minutes of fame + a little sponsored dose of "it's wrong to be hateful....against the Chinese government who just wants peace in the world. " *cue extremely dramatic operatic music*

Teach kids some civics, geography, history and feed them some news about how China actually treats its people. Teach kids to be nothing but consumers, and all they learn is how to be a good product or a cog in someone else's machine.

[clubgop]

Never underestimate the power of rich white liberals or people that want to be like them to suck this shit up like the vacuum of space.

Yeah, that would seem like the most rational venue into propagandizing Western youths. 15 minutes of fame + a little sponsored dose of "it's wrong to be hateful....against the Chinese government who just wants peace in the world. " *cue extremely dramatic operatic music*

Teach kids some civics, geography, history and feed them some news about how China actually treats its people. Teach kids to be nothing but consumers, and all they learn is how to be a good product or a cog in someone else's machine.

That's too smart by half. "I'm not racist, I'm not racist and watch me bend like a pretzel in order to prove it."

[SuburbanFarmer]

That thing at 5:00 looks like a goddamn puppet. It’s not a real video.

[BjornP]

That thing at 5:00 looks like a goddamn puppet. It’s not a real video.

The way he moves his head when he emphasizes a word looks really, really weird, but the guy is apparantly real and a big pro-China voice, according to the rest of the video. I've seen people bob their head forwards like that when they're trying to seem more... empathic or pitying. In this case, it borders on pleading, to me, like he is overdoing the facial expressions. Don't think it's an edit. Just him having speaking issues (that aren't related to simply being a mouthpiece for ChiCom propaganda).

[SuburbanFarmer]

That thing at 5:00 looks like a goddamn puppet. It’s not a real video.

The way he moves his head when he emphasizes a word looks really, really weird, but the guy is apparantly real and a big pro-China voice, according to the rest of the video. I've seen people bob their head forwards like that when they're trying to seem more... empathic or pitying. In this case, it borders on pleading, to me, like he is overdoing the facial expressions. Don't think it's an edit. Just him having speaking issues (that aren't related to simply being a mouthpiece for ChiCom propaganda).

I honestly don’t think that’s a real person. The voice doesn’t match, and the head is detached. Looks more like a Chinese sock puppet.