Coronavirus thread

[Montegriffo]

Of course none of that would be necessary if people would just stay the fuck home and wear a freaking mask.

Hey you fucking retard, multiple studies show masks don't work.

https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/mas ... ial-policy

Jacobs, J. L. et al. (2009) “Use of surgical face masks to reduce the incidence of the common cold among health care workers in Japan: A randomized controlled trial,” American Journal of Infection Control, Volume 37, Issue 5, 417 – 419. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19216002

N95-masked health-care workers (HCW) were significantly more likely to experience headaches. Face mask use in HCW was not demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds.

Cowling, B. et al. (2010) “Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: A systematic review,” Epidemiology and Infection, 138(4), 449-456. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals ... ystematic- review/64D368496EBDE0AFCC6639CCC9D8BC05

None of the studies reviewed showed a benefit from wearing a mask, in either HCW or community members in households (H). See summary Tables 1 and 2 therein.

bin-Reza et al. (2012) “The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the scientific evidence,” Influenza and Other Respiratory Viruses 6(4), 257–267. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epd ... 11.00307.x

“There were 17 eligible studies. … None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection.”

Smith, J.D. et al. (2016) “Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks in protecting health care workers from acute respiratory infection: a systematic review and meta-analysis,” CMAJ Mar 2016 https://www.cmaj.ca/content/188/8/567

“We identified six clinical studies … . In the meta-analysis of the clinical studies, we found no significant difference between N95 respirators and surgical masks in associated risk of (a) laboratory-confirmed respiratory infection, (b) influenza-like illness, or (c) reported work-place absenteeism.”

I'm not going to engage with you if you can't be civil.

[Xenophon]

Its not just the masks. Its half a million people at a motorcycle rally, it's BLM protests, its travelling across the country on crowded planes for Thanksgiving, its election rallies, it's house parties, its Black Friday shopping.
Masks can only do so much. They are zero guarantee.

Well we’ve practically stopped normal human activity for a year, and it didn’t work. Better start blaming the few outliers.

The problem here is that people simply don’t comprehend how big the world is, or how much actually happens while they’re sitting at home.

Why aren’t all of those bikers dead? Or all the spring breakers last year?

Life carries risk. And this doesn’t warrant the kind of risk that will stop people from living their lives.

You're arguing for your right to drive at 100mph in a school zone.
Why should your rights be limited for the good of others.
400,000 excess deaths and rising. You could be at 600,000 before its over and equal Spanish flu deaths. You have already exceeded the last ten years of flu deaths in the US.
The economy is going nowhere until this is over.
We kept opening and then shutting the pub with each new round of restrictions. When we were open we didn't take enough to cover my wages, food costs and the fuel bills the pub lost less money when it was shut and just did take aways. People don't want to go out.
Look to Australia if you want to see an example of strictly enforced lockdowns. They have shut their borders and enforced strict restrictions. Their economy is open and they are leading the recovery.

Psst. Hey, you fucking retard. Come here. I wanna talk to ya'.

Maybe...now, just maybe, flu deaths are counted as COVID deaths because the hospitals are incentivized to report it as such.

Hey man, I'mma open my jacket. Check this out.



That's some wild shit, ain't it?

[Martin Hash]

Of course none of that would be necessary if people would just stay the fuck home and wear a freaking mask.

Hey you fucking retard, multiple studies show masks don't work.

https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/mas ... ial-policy

Jacobs, J. L. et al. (2009) “Use of surgical face masks to reduce the incidence of the common cold among health care workers in Japan: A randomized controlled trial,” American Journal of Infection Control, Volume 37, Issue 5, 417 – 419. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19216002

N95-masked health-care workers (HCW) were significantly more likely to experience headaches. Face mask use in HCW was not demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds.

Cowling, B. et al. (2010) “Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: A systematic review,” Epidemiology and Infection, 138(4), 449-456. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals ... ystematic- review/64D368496EBDE0AFCC6639CCC9D8BC05

None of the studies reviewed showed a benefit from wearing a mask, in either HCW or community members in households (H). See summary Tables 1 and 2 therein.

bin-Reza et al. (2012) “The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the scientific evidence,” Influenza and Other Respiratory Viruses 6(4), 257–267. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epd ... 11.00307.x

“There were 17 eligible studies. … None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection.”

Smith, J.D. et al. (2016) “Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks in protecting health care workers from acute respiratory infection: a systematic review and meta-analysis,” CMAJ Mar 2016 https://www.cmaj.ca/content/188/8/567

“We identified six clinical studies … . In the meta-analysis of the clinical studies, we found no significant difference between N95 respirators and surgical masks in associated risk of (a) laboratory-confirmed respiratory infection, (b) influenza-like illness, or (c) reported work-place absenteeism.”

I'm not going to engage with you if you can't be civil.

You won't have to.

[SuburbanFarmer]

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[Xenophon]

Of course none of that would be necessary if people would just stay the fuck home and wear a freaking mask.

Hey you fucking retard, multiple studies show masks don't work.

https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/mas ... ial-policy

Jacobs, J. L. et al. (2009) “Use of surgical face masks to reduce the incidence of the common cold among health care workers in Japan: A randomized controlled trial,” American Journal of Infection Control, Volume 37, Issue 5, 417 – 419. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19216002

N95-masked health-care workers (HCW) were significantly more likely to experience headaches. Face mask use in HCW was not demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds.

Cowling, B. et al. (2010) “Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: A systematic review,” Epidemiology and Infection, 138(4), 449-456. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals ... ystematic- review/64D368496EBDE0AFCC6639CCC9D8BC05

None of the studies reviewed showed a benefit from wearing a mask, in either HCW or community members in households (H). See summary Tables 1 and 2 therein.

bin-Reza et al. (2012) “The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the scientific evidence,” Influenza and Other Respiratory Viruses 6(4), 257–267. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epd ... 11.00307.x

“There were 17 eligible studies. … None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection.”

Smith, J.D. et al. (2016) “Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks in protecting health care workers from acute respiratory infection: a systematic review and meta-analysis,” CMAJ Mar 2016 https://www.cmaj.ca/content/188/8/567

“We identified six clinical studies … . In the meta-analysis of the clinical studies, we found no significant difference between N95 respirators and surgical masks in associated risk of (a) laboratory-confirmed respiratory infection, (b) influenza-like illness, or (c) reported work-place absenteeism.”

I'm not going to engage with you if you can't be civil.

Engage with the truth, shit bird.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Of course none of that would be necessary if people would just stay the fuck home and wear a freaking mask.

Hey you fucking retard, multiple studies show masks don't work.

https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/mas ... ial-policy

Jacobs, J. L. et al. (2009) “Use of surgical face masks to reduce the incidence of the common cold among health care workers in Japan: A randomized controlled trial,” American Journal of Infection Control, Volume 37, Issue 5, 417 – 419. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19216002

N95-masked health-care workers (HCW) were significantly more likely to experience headaches. Face mask use in HCW was not demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds.

Cowling, B. et al. (2010) “Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: A systematic review,” Epidemiology and Infection, 138(4), 449-456. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals ... ystematic- review/64D368496EBDE0AFCC6639CCC9D8BC05

None of the studies reviewed showed a benefit from wearing a mask, in either HCW or community members in households (H). See summary Tables 1 and 2 therein.

bin-Reza et al. (2012) “The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the scientific evidence,” Influenza and Other Respiratory Viruses 6(4), 257–267. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epd ... 11.00307.x

“There were 17 eligible studies. … None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection.”

Smith, J.D. et al. (2016) “Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks in protecting health care workers from acute respiratory infection: a systematic review and meta-analysis,” CMAJ Mar 2016 https://www.cmaj.ca/content/188/8/567

“We identified six clinical studies … . In the meta-analysis of the clinical studies, we found no significant difference between N95 respirators and surgical masks in associated risk of (a) laboratory-confirmed respiratory infection, (b) influenza-like illness, or (c) reported work-place absenteeism.”

I'm not going to engage with you if you can't be civil.

Don’t be dense.

[Xenophon]

Oh lawd, somebody is responding to my sarcasm and derisive nature with sarcasm and derisiveness! If OWNLY we could retu'hn ta' some LAvel of SuhVility!

[Zlaxer]

Hey you fucking retard, multiple studies show masks don't work.

https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/mas ... ial-policy

I'm not going to engage with you if you can't be civil.

Don’t be dense.

Monte, why don’t you try posting some evidence that supports your position.

Also, where do you come off that it’s acceptable to lockdown everyone to save the vulnerable few? Using your analogy, your advocating to stop people from driving at all because a kid might get run over in a school zone.

[PartyOf5]

I'm a holocaust denier,

Wait, what?

[Haumana]

People are really still trying to reason Monty with logic and facts? Dude is impervious to them.