VDH's Latest Article on Trump. Interesting...

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VDH's Latest Article on Trump. Interesting...

Post by heydaralon » Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:08 pm

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/02/07/ ... y-support/


What do you all think of this article? I thought it was pretty good. VDH has his priorities straight. Anti-China and anti-Iran sentiment are always welcome to me, but I might be biased because I like America and liberty.
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Re: VDH's Latest Article on Trump. Interesting...

Post by heydaralon » Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:12 pm

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Post by Martin Hash » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:02 pm

Both good but the people who should read these, don’t. Monte wouldn’t even click the links.
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Post by GloryofGreece » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:02 am

I would say I and other traditionalist right wingers actually would be better served working with countries like Russia and Iran over countries like Israel and Saudi Arabia. But then again my main goals aren't based around money and finance and more to do with culture and religion. Either way if I'm picking my poison I'd do business with Iran over Arabia . I'd back the dictator of Syria over ISIS etc . I like governments that don't kill Christian's in their own lands. There's no perfect call here but I see it between choosing worse and worst pickings .
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Post by Hastur » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:27 am

heydaralon wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:08 pm
https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/02/07/ ... y-support/


What do you all think of this article? I thought it was pretty good. VDH has his priorities straight. Anti-China and anti-Iran sentiment are always welcome to me, but I might be biased because I like America and liberty.
I guess I like America and liberty as well then since I'm constantly harping on about VDH.

Another good one:
https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine ... ddle-east/

For those too lazy to read or who just prefer to listen to VDH talk about it, here you go.
https://www.hoover.org/research/classic ... iddle-east

For nearly 70 years Americans have watched nightly on their televisions as Arabs and Iranians scream and damn America. They have understandably grown tired of the region and its proverbially volatile Islamic street, where mobs equate any U.S. presence on the ground with imperialism, colonialism, and other catchwords spoon-fed to them by Western leftists. Americans increasingly see the Middle East as a sinkhole of precious blood and treasure wasted in behalf of those who are, to be frank, not deemed worth the effort. Most recently, the bier of Qasem Soleimani was driven through Baghdad on an imported Chevy pickup among shouting anti-American mobs while guarded by U.S.-trained Iraqi security forces — a metaphor, along with the fact that more Iranians died at Soleimani’s perfervid funeral in Tehran than were killed in the American drone attack on his caravan, for the contemporary confused status of West-meets-East.

Especially in the last half century, the Middle East has produced little more than bad news, bad memories, and bad blood. Six major Israeli–Arab conflicts, the 1979–80 Iranian hostage crisis, the Persian Gulf War, the Iraq War, a decade of no-fly zones, the shooting down of a U.S. Black Hawk in Mogadishu, the two-decade slog in Afghanistan, the first and second Libyan bombing missions, the Marine-barracks attack in Beirut, the Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, the terrorist attack on the USS Cole in Yemen, Obama’s “red line” in Syria, gassings and genocides by Saddam and Assad, the hijackings, assassinations, mass killings, and bombings by the Muslim Brotherhood, the PLO, Black September, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Hamas, Hezbollah, al-Qaeda, and ISIS, the current mass ethnic cleansing of Christians, the online beheadings, the no-go zones of Middle East immigrant communities in Europe — all these have done their part in souring generations of Americans on the Middle East. And all that monotony and weariness stands well apart from the bitter memories of the bloodthirsty rantings of the late Ayatollah Khomeini, Yasser Arafat, Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, Saddam Hussein, Moammar Qaddafi, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi — and Qasem Soleimani. “Death to America!” and all that blah, blah, blah.

One refrain of Trump’s support among the deplorables and irredeemables was a desire to end “endless wars” abroad. The well-recognized subtext of that desire was no more Middle East interventions. After 9/11, Americans were in a punitive mood as regarded the home of the 19 hijackers and murderers. But the desire to pay back Islamic terrorists has aged into something akin to an out-of-sight, out-of-mind weariness with the entire region.

We might end with another paraphrase, of the famous saying attributed to Otto von Bismarck: To the American street, the entire Middle East is no longer worth the healthy bones of a single U.S. Marine.
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Re: VDH's Latest Article on Trump. Interesting...

Post by Calculus Man » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:16 pm

Thanks for sharing. Victor Davis Hanson is a treasure. I still owe old Dan a debt of gratitude for turning me on to him.