SARS Pt. 2 - Wuhan Boogaloo

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Post by Penner » Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:40 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:17 pm
Ph64 wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:05 pm
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -bioweapon

ZH of course, so a big grain of salt required...
Pretty shitty bio-weapon if it only kills around 2% of those who catch the virus.
Highly unlikely.
Highly unlikely the death rate is 2%. More likely 20-. 50
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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:26 pm

Penner wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:40 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:17 pm
Ph64 wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:05 pm
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -bioweapon

ZH of course, so a big grain of salt required...
Pretty shitty bio-weapon if it only kills around 2% of those who catch the virus.
Highly unlikely.
Highly unlikely the death rate is 2%. More likely 20-. 50
Yeah, the Chinese government numbers are garbage. Consensus is 10% mortality, but we won’t know until it really gets going outside of bug town.
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Post by C-Mag » Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:49 pm

The CCP, boarding people in buildings and forcing them on to busses. Collectivism at its finest.
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Post by Montegriffo » Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:34 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:26 pm
Penner wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:40 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:17 pm


Pretty shitty bio-weapon if it only kills around 2% of those who catch the virus.
Highly unlikely.
Highly unlikely the death rate is 2%. More likely 20-. 50
Yeah, the Chinese government numbers are garbage. Consensus is 10% mortality, but we won’t know until it really gets going outside of bug town.
What concensus?
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Post by Calculus Man » Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:35 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:34 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:26 pm
Penner wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:40 pm


Highly unlikely the death rate is 2%. More likely 20-. 50
Yeah, the Chinese government numbers are garbage. Consensus is 10% mortality, but we won’t know until it really gets going outside of bug town.
What concensus?
The consensus he pulled out of his arse. :lol: 10% does seem like a pretty reasonable number though...

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Post by Hastur » Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:44 am

SARS was 10%. We don't know about this one yet. The current estimate is at 2% but it's difficult to get a correct number for the infected.
It's already killed more than SARS so it spreads faster.
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Post by PartyOf5 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:03 am

Calculus Man wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:35 am
The consensus he pulled out of his arse. :lol: 10% does seem like a pretty reasonable number though...
The equation is simple. Number reported by China multiplied by 10 to cover for their BS. So they report 2%, multiply by the BS factor of 10 and you have 20%.

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:59 am

PartyOf5 wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:03 am
Calculus Man wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:35 am
The consensus he pulled out of his arse. :lol: 10% does seem like a pretty reasonable number though...
The equation is simple. Number reported by China multiplied by 10 to cover for their BS. So they report 2%, multiply by the BS factor of 10 and you have 20%.
Consensus among epidemiologists in the west, and based on the initial numbers.

It appears they may be right, too..
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/did-ch ... statistics
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Post by Montegriffo » Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:07 am

Hastur wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:44 am
SARS was 10%. We don't know about this one yet. The current estimate is at 2% but it's difficult to get a correct number for the infected.
It's already killed more than SARS so it spreads faster.
It has infected more than 3 times as many as SARS but not yet killed as many.
SARS - 8098 cases, 774 deaths, mortality rate 9.6%.

Coronavirus 24,300 cases, 490 deaths, mortality rate 2%.

The sheer numbers of cases mean this is likely to cause far more deaths in the long run but as a biological weapon it is rubbish.
Conspiracy theories are fun though...
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Post by Hastur » Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:23 am

Some unverified rumors:
From a well placed source with direct ties to mainland China, here are some facts regarding the virus. He really got into minutiae of genetic medicine and health risks and traits based on very specific genes and gene sequences. Naturally, when then Coronavirus hit he went to work researching genetics and papers on the disease. He attended Johns Hopkins a Univ in Nanjing China for his MA, and as alum still has a logon to their
libraries, where he drew much of his research from.

The short version:

- Those most susceptible to nCoV the highest ACE2 gene structures.

- People who contract nCoV never recover from it. The virus becomes recessive after incubation and initial flare. Many of those who had an initial infection with fever and cough, but without Cytokine storm, had showed a compromised immune system and recurrence of the virus.

- In several cases the third or fourth recurrence, in the reduced immune response, the Cytokine storm developed. Those people died.

- Because the virus is immuno-compromising, any recurrences further weakens the immune system. The Chinese are using the term “Airborne AIDS” in describing the approach to it.

- The patient in Seattle who was given an experimental anti-Retroviral after his first post infection flare, fully recovered on the drug. He was declared cured. When he stopped the drug, the virus flare recurred (described in January 22nd NYT article). He’s back in the hospital.

The basic prevention is to quarantine and avoid people in the ACE2 gene sequence, as shown below. Those people will have the highest viral load and be “super spreaders”.

Yes, this is much less deadly currently than the flu virus, however it has the potential to grow undetected and at a much higher rate. It also has already had an impact on the global economy that has already surpassed anything the flu virus has ever done.
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