2024 Election

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Re: 2024 Election

Post by StCapps » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:30 pm

clubgop wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:15 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:05 am
clubgop wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:33 pm


She wants to make real money and the opportunity to do so is at it's highest point. If the election was an open seat General election she most likely would smash. Since it is a closed primary in April or May, during the prime of tourist season that won't be the case. That is as close to a smoky back room as one can get. I'd be willing to wager on this I am that confident. If this guy wants to be Senator after those elections, he will be Senator after those elections. I would notice that at the same time she could jump into the open Gubernatorial seat but that is not a jumping off point for national politics,especially for Democrats, that is the culmination.
Tell that to Bill Clinton, Governor ain't a jumping off point my ass. If the Dems want to win in 2024, they don't give the Senate seat to a nameless cog, they give it someone who can actually has a chance to win in 2024, not faceless wonder over there.
If they want a vote for impeachment, a vote for open borders amensty, a vote for armed foreign intervention, an establishment vote faceless wonder will do just fine. You say not to underestimate the power and sway of moderate establishment democrats. Well that's is who these faceless people are. As for Bill Clinton. That is a different bygone DNC. No one in the DNC care a wit about state level government anymore. They don't give a fuck. If it aint federal they aint paying attention. Democrat Governors have ran for the nom since 2000 the only one to even sniff a primary victory not in their own state is Dean.
Assuming that the DNC will stick to it's current strategy forever, even as they keep losing because of it, wishful thinking clubby. Tulsi can win, the other faggot cannot.
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Re: 2024 Election

Post by clubgop » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:44 pm

Who's losing? The manipulative establishment moderate democrats are just fine. Rigging their primaries, controlling the narrative, main stream media in the palm of their hands. Last elections, won 40 seats, picked up some governors, won the "popular vote." They blame Russia for losing and Tulsi is a Russian asset. You expect them to abandon a losing strategy they would first have to believe that they are actually losing.

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Re: 2024 Election

Post by StCapps » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:59 pm

clubgop wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:44 pm
Who's losing? The manipulative establishment moderate democrats are just fine. Rigging their primaries, controlling the narrative, main stream media in the palm of their hands. Last elections, won 40 seats, picked up some governors, won the "popular vote." They blame Russia for losing and Tulsi is a Russian asset. You expect them to abandon a losing strategy they would first have to believe that they are actually losing.
The prediction is that Tulsi becomes a moderate democrat, and the establishment stops fighting her, because they are sick of losing.
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Re: 2024 Election

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:06 pm

StCapps wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:59 pm
clubgop wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:44 pm
Who's losing? The manipulative establishment moderate democrats are just fine. Rigging their primaries, controlling the narrative, main stream media in the palm of their hands. Last elections, won 40 seats, picked up some governors, won the "popular vote." They blame Russia for losing and Tulsi is a Russian asset. You expect them to abandon a losing strategy they would first have to believe that they are actually losing.
The prediction is that Tulsi becomes a moderate democrat, and the establishment stops fighting her, because they are sick of losing.
Both parties are doubled down on their Get The Base Out strategy, so there's no middle ground for Tulsi

Maybe four more years of Bad Orange Man will inflict so much pain on the Dems that their base shifts.

They keep telling themselves that they can make Purple Districts,

Meanwhile the one candidate they have who could actually do it, they are throwing under the bus.

In the name of McGovernism

1972 all over again, even if not in a landslide.
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Re: 2024 Election

Post by StCapps » Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:07 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:06 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:59 pm
clubgop wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:44 pm
Who's losing? The manipulative establishment moderate democrats are just fine. Rigging their primaries, controlling the narrative, main stream media in the palm of their hands. Last elections, won 40 seats, picked up some governors, won the "popular vote." They blame Russia for losing and Tulsi is a Russian asset. You expect them to abandon a losing strategy they would first have to believe that they are actually losing.
The prediction is that Tulsi becomes a moderate democrat, and the establishment stops fighting her, because they are sick of losing.
Both parties are doubled down on their Get The Base Out strategy, so there's no middle ground for Tulsi

Maybe four more years of Bad Orange Man will inflict so much pain on the Dems that their base shifts.

They keep telling themselves that they can make Purple Districts,

Meanwhile the one candidate they have who could actually do it, they are throwing under the bus.

In the name of McGovernism

1972 all over again, even if not in a landslide.
Maybe the Dems won't wise up by 2024, but if they don't by 2028, I'd be surprised. If they want to keep losing, that's fine by me.
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Re: 2024 Election

Post by Hastur » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:22 am

StCapps wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:07 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:06 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:59 pm
The prediction is that Tulsi becomes a moderate democrat, and the establishment stops fighting her, because they are sick of losing.
Both parties are doubled down on their Get The Base Out strategy, so there's no middle ground for Tulsi

Maybe four more years of Bad Orange Man will inflict so much pain on the Dems that their base shifts.

They keep telling themselves that they can make Purple Districts,

Meanwhile the one candidate they have who could actually do it, they are throwing under the bus.

In the name of McGovernism

1972 all over again, even if not in a landslide.
Maybe the Dems won't wise up by 2024, but if they don't by 2028, I'd be surprised. If they want to keep losing, that's fine by me.
Be careful what you wish for. Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often, and for the same reason.
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Re: 2024 Election

Post by StCapps » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:32 am

Hastur wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:22 am
StCapps wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:07 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:06 pm

Both parties are doubled down on their Get The Base Out strategy, so there's no middle ground for Tulsi

Maybe four more years of Bad Orange Man will inflict so much pain on the Dems that their base shifts.

They keep telling themselves that they can make Purple Districts,

Meanwhile the one candidate they have who could actually do it, they are throwing under the bus.

In the name of McGovernism

1972 all over again, even if not in a landslide.
Maybe the Dems won't wise up by 2024, but if they don't by 2028, I'd be surprised. If they want to keep losing, that's fine by me.
Be careful what you wish for. Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often, and for the same reason.
If the Dems don't change their obviously soiled diaper, they are going to keep losing, as it should be.
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Re: 2024 Election

Post by clubgop » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:23 pm

StCapps wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:59 pm
clubgop wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:44 pm
Who's losing? The manipulative establishment moderate democrats are just fine. Rigging their primaries, controlling the narrative, main stream media in the palm of their hands. Last elections, won 40 seats, picked up some governors, won the "popular vote." They blame Russia for losing and Tulsi is a Russian asset. You expect them to abandon a losing strategy they would first have to believe that they are actually losing.
The prediction is that Tulsi becomes a moderate democrat, and the establishment stops fighting her, because they are sick of losing.

She won't become a moderate, she can't. Everything that got her attention and after what she did to Hillary, they'll never accept her. The establishment "Hillary is my President" people will never forgive her. Moderate coporate dems are like tissues they can simply get a another one, dont go with the used one that cut you if you cross it.

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Re: 2024 Election

Post by StCapps » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:28 pm

clubgop wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:23 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:59 pm
clubgop wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:44 pm
Who's losing? The manipulative establishment moderate democrats are just fine. Rigging their primaries, controlling the narrative, main stream media in the palm of their hands. Last elections, won 40 seats, picked up some governors, won the "popular vote." They blame Russia for losing and Tulsi is a Russian asset. You expect them to abandon a losing strategy they would first have to believe that they are actually losing.
The prediction is that Tulsi becomes a moderate democrat, and the establishment stops fighting her, because they are sick of losing.

She won't become a moderate, she can't. Everything that got her attention and after what she did to Hillary, they'll never accept her. The establishment "Hillary is my President" people will never forgive her. Moderate coporate dems are like tissues they can simply get a another one, dont go with the used one that cut you if you cross it.
That would be assuming they want to keep losing. If the Dems want to keep being Clinton lackeys, they are going to keep losing. The old establishment is not the answer, they need fresh faces, and turning away the best option they got is a bad idea.
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Re: 2024 Election

Post by clubgop » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:31 pm

StCapps wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:28 pm
clubgop wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:23 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:59 pm
The prediction is that Tulsi becomes a moderate democrat, and the establishment stops fighting her, because they are sick of losing.

She won't become a moderate, she can't. Everything that got her attention and after what she did to Hillary, they'll never accept her. The establishment "Hillary is my President" people will never forgive her. Moderate coporate dems are like tissues they can simply get a another one, dont go with the used one that cut you if you cross it.
That would be assuming they want to keep losing. If the Dems want to keep being Clinton lackeys, they are going to keep losing. The old establishment is not the answer.
They dont have much of a choice either that or get suicided.