UK election

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Haumana
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Re: UK election

Post by Haumana » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:10 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:45 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:45 am
The Conservative wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:23 am


The US is a Constitutional Republic. And your standard grunt is a plebe.

”Yes Sir!”
”No Sir!”
”May I bend over so you can give it to me again, Sir!?”

You are the bottom of the food chain in the military, you are a plebe to the brass. An expendable.

You can tell me in wrong all you want, but the current generation of soldiers in my family say otherwise.
I didn't say anything to you, I simply don't see how Plebeian is a pejorative in a republic.

Plebeian simply means citizen, which is nothing to be ashamed of in America.

Soldiers obeying the chain of command is entirely consistent with their oaths, so no shame there neither.

Your vacuous screed against honorable Plebeians is simply incoherent.
In the US a plebe in an insult.
No, it isn't.

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Re: UK election

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:16 pm

Haumana wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:10 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:45 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:45 am


I didn't say anything to you, I simply don't see how Plebeian is a pejorative in a republic.

Plebeian simply means citizen, which is nothing to be ashamed of in America.

Soldiers obeying the chain of command is entirely consistent with their oaths, so no shame there neither.

Your vacuous screed against honorable Plebeians is simply incoherent.
In the US a plebe in an insult.
No, it isn't.
The origin of the usage in America comes from West Point.

"Plebe" is slang for a Freshman Cadet.

So it's actually a badge of honor.

Candidate to the elite of the United States Army officer ranks.

Ulysses S. Grant was a Plebe. Robert E. Lee was a Plebe.
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Re: UK election

Post by The Conservative » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:41 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:16 pm
Haumana wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:10 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:45 am

In the US a plebe in an insult.
No, it isn't.
The origin of the usage in America comes from West Point.

"Plebe" is slang for a Freshman Cadet.

So it's actually a badge of honor.

Candidate to the elite of the United States Army officer ranks.

Ulysses S. Grant was a Plebe. Robert E. Lee was a Plebe.
And a faggot used to be a bundle of wood...or a cigarette, we know how well that worked out...
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Re: UK election

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:45 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:41 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:16 pm
Haumana wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:10 pm


No, it isn't.
The origin of the usage in America comes from West Point.

"Plebe" is slang for a Freshman Cadet.

So it's actually a badge of honor.

Candidate to the elite of the United States Army officer ranks.

Ulysses S. Grant was a Plebe. Robert E. Lee was a Plebe.
And a faggot used to be a bundle of wood...or a cigarette, we know how well that worked out...
A faggot was never a cigarette.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: UK election

Post by The Conservative » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:47 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:45 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:41 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:16 pm


The origin of the usage in America comes from West Point.

"Plebe" is slang for a Freshman Cadet.

So it's actually a badge of honor.

Candidate to the elite of the United States Army officer ranks.

Ulysses S. Grant was a Plebe. Robert E. Lee was a Plebe.
And a faggot used to be a bundle of wood...or a cigarette, we know how well that worked out...
A faggot was never a cigarette.
I'm so sorry, a fag. And yes it was.
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Re: UK election

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:49 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:47 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:45 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:41 pm


And a faggot used to be a bundle of wood...or a cigarette, we know how well that worked out...
A faggot was never a cigarette.
I'm so sorry, a fag. And yes it was.
Still is a fag never was a faggot.
A faggot is a meatball in gravy or a bunch of firewood.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: UK election

Post by The Conservative » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:51 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:49 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:47 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:45 pm


A faggot was never a cigarette.
I'm so sorry, a fag. And yes it was.
Still is a fag never was a faggot.
A faggot is a meatball in gravy or a bunch of firewood.
It was it the UK, so... suck an egg.
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Re: UK election

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:52 pm

Plebe was not an insult in Roman times neither

The Patricians always sought to portray themselves as being of the people, under the auspices of SPQR

So in fact the Patricians extolled the virtues of the Plebeians.

Plebeian in the Roman context was to be the Salt o' the Earth, like Italians saying "Paisano".
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Re: UK election

Post by The Conservative » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:55 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:52 pm
Plebe was not an insult in Roman times neither

The Patricians always sought to portray themselves as being of the people, under the auspices of SPQR

So in fact the Patricians extolled the virtues of the Plebeians.

Plebeian in the Roman context was to be the Salt o' the Earth, like Italians saying "Paisano".
Was always considered an insult within the group of family members and their cohorts going back several generations... so if it's not, so be it, but I have always considered a pleeb someone who doesn't think for themselves. Just around the same mental attributes as a sheep.
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Re: UK election

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:59 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:55 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:52 pm
Plebe was not an insult in Roman times neither

The Patricians always sought to portray themselves as being of the people, under the auspices of SPQR

So in fact the Patricians extolled the virtues of the Plebeians.

Plebeian in the Roman context was to be the Salt o' the Earth, like Italians saying "Paisano".
Was always considered an insult within the group of family members and their cohorts going back several generations... so if it's not, so be it, but I have always considered a pleeb someone who doesn't think for themselves. Just around the same mental attributes as a sheep.
You don't now much about the military apparently.
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