Taxation is Theft

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Taxation is Theft

Post by pineapplemike » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:00 am

Americans Spent More on Taxes in 2018 Than on Food, Clothing and Health Care Combined
https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/tere ... e-combined

Americans on average spent more on taxes in 2018 than they did on the basic necessities of food, clothing and health care combined, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics Consumer Expenditure Survey.

The survey's recently published Table R-1 for 2018 lists the average "detailed expenditures" of what the BLS calls "consumer units."

"Consumer units," says BLS, "include families, single persons living alone or sharing a household with others but who are financially independent, or two or more persons living together who share major expenses."

In 2018, according to Table R-1, American consumer units spent an average of $9,031.93 on federal income taxes; $5,023.73 on Social Security taxes (which the table calls "deductions"); $2,284.62 on state and local income taxes; $2,199.80 on property taxes; and $77.85 on what BLS calls "other taxes."

The combined payments the average American consumer unit made for these five categories of taxes was $18,617.93.

At the same time the average American consumer unit was paying these taxes, it was spending $7,923.19 on food; $4,968.44 on health care; and $1,866.48 on "apparel and services."

These combined expenditures equaled $14,758.11.
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Re: Taxation is Theft

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:45 am

“I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” ~ TJ
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Re: Taxation is Theft

Post by PartyOf5 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:34 am

Well that's half right. Half of America spent that much on taxes. The other half received tax money for food (stamps), clothing (welfare) and health care (Medicaid) while spending $0 on taxes.

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Post by Fife » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:50 am

Student Suspended for 5 Days Over ‘Taxation is Theft’ Hat, ‘End the Drug War’ Flyer

“I was suspended out of school for five days for the flyers and refusing to turn them in and being skeptical of their claims of what the rules are,” said E. “They lied to me about the hat rule, so I was thinking that they might be lying again. They didn’t allow the opportunity for me to look up the rule because they knew that they could have possibly been wrong.”

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Post by Zlaxer » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:02 pm

Fife wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:50 am
Student Suspended for 5 Days Over ‘Taxation is Theft’ Hat, ‘End the Drug War’ Flyer

“I was suspended out of school for five days for the flyers and refusing to turn them in and being skeptical of their claims of what the rules are,” said E. “They lied to me about the hat rule, so I was thinking that they might be lying again. They didn’t allow the opportunity for me to look up the rule because they knew that they could have possibly been wrong.”

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Seems like the system is working just fine.

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Re: Taxation is Theft

Post by brewster » Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:39 pm

PartyOf5 wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:34 am
Well that's half right. Half of America spent that much on taxes. The other half received tax money for food (stamps), clothing (welfare) and health care (Medicaid) while spending $0 on taxes.
This is an oft repeated lie. The lower half pays 25% of income, mostly on payroll taxes and consumption taxes like gas and sales.

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From a great article on inequality by 2 economists with a new book on it.
Https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/11/opin ... -rate.html
When he was a presidential candidate in 2012, Senator Mitt Romney famously lambasted the 47 percent of “takers” who, according to him, do not contribute to the public coffers. In reality, the bottom half of the income distribution may not pay much in income taxes, but it pays a lot in sales and payroll taxes. Taking into account all taxes paid, each group contributes between 25 percent and 30 percent of its income to the community’s needs. The only exception is the billionaires, who pay a tax rate of 23 percent, less than every other group.
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Re: Taxation is Theft

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:54 pm

PartyOf5 wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:34 am
Well that's half right. Half of America spent that much on taxes. The other half received tax money for food (stamps), clothing (welfare) and health care (Medicaid) while spending $0 on taxes.
Half of all births are done by Medicaid. By those standards I must be wealthy

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:01 pm

It really is a pernicious lie, though. While it is true the US has a progressive income tax rate in which many working Americans pay very little into the federal budget, the overall tax burden in this country is extraordinarily regressive. When you break down the total percentage of income taxed, the upper brackets are making out like bandits. Lots of them don't even pay income tax because they do not work anyway. Capital gains taxes are low as fuck. Then there are all sorts of tax loopholes to get out of paying that.

The average working class American may be paying 0-15% income tax, but when you look at their state income taxes, property taxes, consumption taxes, and taxes on every necessity for life, they pay a larger share of their annual income in taxes than billionaires do as of last year. The trend had been falling for quite a while, but Trump's gibs tax breaks to the neocons and lolbergs actually managed to push the total tax rate for billionaires below the average working class family.

https://www.wptv.com/news/local-news/wa ... udy-claims

Consider the impact of taxes on things like houses, annual auto title taxes, communications taxes, gas taxes, food taxes, etc. on the median household income. Those things take up a giant portion of the average American's expenses and assets, but only a much smaller fraction of those of the wealthy families. Most of their assets are financial rather than property, and their income is mostly capital gains.

Consider also the very billionaires who are so keen to destroy your local communities with offshoring and open borders are paying very little into the federal budget. Then the very corporations carrying out those ambitions on behalf of their billionaire shareholders are often paying zero taxes themselves while struggling Americans are getting loaded with ever more tax burden coupled with dwindling jobs and stagnating real incomes.

It's actually quite disgusting. This country is fucking ruined for a lot of reasons, and this worship of money and markets chief among them. This Paul Ryan-style worship of money and markets is not really less disgusting than the demon tranny story hour for the little kiddos. They are both liberal degeneracies; one is sexual and the other is economic. Part of the same poisonous set of ideologies we lovingly call neoliberalism.

And taxation is not theft you fucking dipshits. Go live in the Alaskan wilderness if you believe that where you can be free.