Wrestling with the Dissident Right

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Re: Wrestling with the Dissident Right

Post by GloryofGreece » Tue May 14, 2019 5:37 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 8:04 am
As the left continues their campaign of destruction against traditional western values and thought, folks that hold those 'old values' struggle for some sort of identity or coherent platform. These folks rallied to elect POTUS Trump and find the results of voting for him luke warm, gaining the most joy out of him disrupting the lefts campaign against us. So who are we, what are we.

I kind of like this definition of the Dissident Right. Because we have become political dissidents in our own country for valuing western traditions and the constitution. One blogger plotted the various groups in the Dissident Right here. It's the upper right quadrant of the typical political grid.

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To maintain our traditions, and not lose everything to the left there are going to have to be a few things we all agree on. But how do we do that with such a disparate group? Some folks are going to see White Nationalists in that quadrant and reject the whole thing, others will reject it because Catholics are in the group.

The blogger listed these 4 things
1) A belief in the Truth.
2) An intention to calibrate act and understanding towards the Truth.
3) A belief in empirical data.
4) The belief in a Christian Transcendentalism, or at it's very minimum, a non-hostility towards it.
https://socialpathology.blogspot.com/20 ... right.html

I'm not a big fan of the list, but I think a list of a few foundation beliefs is a great place to start. My list would include things like Equal Justice under the law, belief in empirical data, individual liberty.
Believing in empirical data is one thing , it's the interpretation and value you give it that matters. Most data is overplayed. We are also not raitional beings. Not a fan of catagorizing and systemizing everything either. I believe in Truth and God.
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Re: Wrestling with the Dissident Right

Post by TheReal_ND » Tue May 14, 2019 5:42 pm

This is just autism in graphical content.
hmm I put Andrew Anglin over here, Musonius Rufus over there, Sven and Enoch over here, and Jarred Taylor over there. Yeah. Now everything makes sense.
I hate that crap, especially when it comes to fringe political idealogies. They aren't insects you can pin down and put in a display case. And that's even presuming you truly understand anything about them. Political beliefs change and adapt like everything else in life. Trying to analyze them, at least for us laymen, is impossible.

All that said, I do believe they now have the algorithms to predict and manipulate anyone on the political spectrum.

And by "they" I mean the government which includes silicon valley

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Re: Wrestling with the Dissident Right

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Re: Wrestling with the Dissident Right

Post by GloryofGreece » Sat May 18, 2019 9:24 am

Someone convince me why I shouldn't become a Fascist ? The one reason that I see as a real roadblock for me is that I am a Christian and I think most strains of fascism are hostile to religion if not directly atheist . I am a traditional Christian who believes in a future worth having. I believe in humanity and the specialness of the human soul. Technology should remain subservient to man and competency should be rewarded .
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Re: Wrestling with the Dissident Right

Post by Martin Hash » Sat May 18, 2019 9:47 am

Fascism is government over business over liberty
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Re: Wrestling with the Dissident Right

Post by Ex-California » Sat May 18, 2019 10:28 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 9:47 am
Fascism is government over business over liberty
Fascism is statism
No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session

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Re: Wrestling with the Dissident Right

Post by C-Mag » Sat May 18, 2019 10:30 am

Fascism is a different flavor of Filthy Collectivism............ stay away from it.
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Re: Wrestling with the Dissident Right

Post by GloryofGreece » Sat May 18, 2019 10:33 am

C-Mag wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 10:30 am
Fascism is a different flavor of Filthy Collectivism............ stay away from it.
My flinching from it revolves around my inherent belief that men should be free but I have to reconcile it with a chaotic world so its difficult. Its like what is more favorable or meaningful... a chaotic "free" wilderness or some sort of civilized "free" nation? What's the purpose of a people and what units them etc. And where is the balance at between individual freedom and collective unity?
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Re: Wrestling with the Dissident Right

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat May 18, 2019 10:42 am

GloryofGreece wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 9:24 am
Someone convince me why I shouldn't become a Fascist ? The one reason that I see as a real roadblock for me is that I am a Christian and I think most strains of fascism are hostile to religion if not directly atheist . I am a traditional Christian who believes in a future worth having. I believe in humanity and the specialness of the human soul. Technology should remain subservient to man and competency should be rewarded .
Because this is the real world not a D&D campaign. Quit LARPing. Stay away from any irl group that espouses that shit.

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Re: Wrestling with the Dissident Right

Post by Martin Hash » Sat May 18, 2019 11:40 am

California wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 10:28 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 9:47 am
Fascism is government over business over liberty
Fascism is statism
So is Socialism, so is Communism; the difference is that Fascists are in bed with private corporations, they don't actually control or own them.

p.s. We all know what a Nationalist Fascist is.
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