No Country for Old Hippies (Dan Carlin)

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https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/ ... overlooked

“The generation I grew up in, which is the Vietnam War period, people were all concerned about spying on anti-war people and so forth by the government, and there were a lot of rules in place to make sure that there’s an adequate basis before our law enforcement agencies get involved in political surveillance.”

I am of the same generation as Barr, so for those readers too young to remember the old days, let me second his reminder.

The liberal, progressive, peace loving, flower power, civil rights championing population of the 1960s — everyone who you would likely admire and respect — was sincerely and properly concerned with government abuse. J. Edgar Hoover had used the power of his office (and, allegedly, the extortionate power he could wield over elected presidents given his extensive files on their personal peccadillos and wrongdoings) to run his own version of rough justice against Martin Luther King Jr. and others. The CIA was caught in coups and plots that embarrassed and shocked the nation. Lyndon Johnson was too unpopular and considered too dishonest to run for a second full term, and Nixon’s wrongdoings as president (and the wrongdoings of his reelection committee and aides) further led to the distrust of government.

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The distrust of government was the original state.

From Bunker Hill down through the decades.

Peaking with the Civil War.

Trust in Government was not the norm, it actually only came about by way of the Second World War.

There was a truce between the left and right, to fight the Nazis and contain the Soviets.

The government of FDR, which the lefties all laud, was just as shady as Johnson or Nixon.

It was shady all along. The shadiness was a product of the First World War and associated Bolsheviks.

The threat of Bolshevism was the rubric for extraordinary measures to fight what was a covert war by nature.

Vietnam simply broke the truce and returned things to their normal state of distrusting government.

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My retort to the Hanoi Dan types is that they refuse to take responsibility for the dirty tricks of the left.

They refuse to acknowledge that the left is a communist fifth column against American freedom.

You can't vote a communist takeover down. You can't legislate against a communist takeover.

It's a dirty war, because the left fights dirty.

In extremis, Pinochet is the only way to stop them.

Part of the truce would be that first America would use the Soviets to beat the Nazis.

Then America would use the Nazis to beat the Soviets.

The right held up their end of the bargain.

But when it came to take the Soviets down, the left broke the deal and balked.

Because they are commie sympathizers, and always have been.

The right threw the Nazis under the bus, the left didn't hold up their end of the truce.

The college academics staged a revolt, with Vietnam as their rubric.

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There is no different left. What you see today are essentially the same people as the 1960s leftists, but with power.

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They had considerable power in the 60's too.

Nixon was the underdog going in. Nixon came back from the dead.

The Democrats handed him the landslide in the second term.

Because they vastly overestimated the appeal of hippies.

While vastly underestimated the size of the Great Silent Majority.

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The Woodstock generation did distrust the government because of shady FBI/CIA operations, Hoover, and Nixon. But it’s ludicrous to suggest that distrust matured into some kind of reverence for individual liberty. It matured into a seething hatred of the American system and unadulterated love for all things non-American.

Go to a public school or college campus. There’s your flower power boomers. How many fucks do they give about small government and individual liberty?



Zero.

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The other thing the Hanoi Dan types do is portray the seventies as if everybody was in agreement.

The electorate actually knew about Watergate and it was pretty obviously some sort of GOP plot.

The Great Silent Majority didn't care.

If you went back and asked somebody on the right at the time, they would have said;

"whatever the President does to stop these commie traitors, is fine by me, they fight dirty, fight fire with fire"

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The left was actually never so powerful as they were from 2012 to 2016. You cannot only look at the percentage of legislative seats held, presidency, judges, etc., though even by those standards alone they were quite powerful. You have also to look at who controls industries, educational institutions, and even family households. The left's grip on American society still is very strong, though they are losing it.

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George Washington himself was the Original Nixonian President.

He had no time for the rabble rousing hippies in congress.

When it came to defeating the Tory fifth column working for the British; no holds barred, anything goes.

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The Founders did in fact write extraordinary war powers into the constitution.

To include "domestic spying".

They were fighting a war. They had to win.

They couldn't afford to have a fifth column bringing the war effort down from within.