Redpill Me on Reconstruction Era and Carpetbaggers

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Redpill Me on Reconstruction Era and Carpetbaggers

Post by kybkh » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:13 am

Anyone got a good read about how much wealth and power was extracted from the South following the Civil War?

Were things always this bad??

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Re: Redpill Me on Reconstruction Era and Carpetbaggers

Post by heydaralon » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:39 am

kybkh wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:13 am
Anyone got a good read about how much wealth and power was extracted from the South following the Civil War?

Were things always this bad??

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Re: Redpill Me on Reconstruction Era and Carpetbaggers

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:39 am

Aside from utterly destroying wealth by running people out of land and homes, and freeing all the slaves, I doubt much was "extracted". More like plundered. Yankees colonized the cities everywhere. They took a lot of land out in the countryside as well, but my suspicion is that, if you were to go through the records, you'd find they sold the land down the line for the most part, and returned to their cities.

For instance, I have been looking for about five to six acres of farmland. It's somewhat rare around here because there are only so many spots between the mountains, and the stuff around the rivers are unsuitable for my purposes due to flooding. LOTS of wealthy urbanites bought their hobby farms around here. You can drive by these hobby farms and you will see the fields empty of anything but weeds. No work was put into the soil for years. But their house is still sitting there. Eventually the woman will likely go tired of not living in an urban environment and having to drive many miles to go shopping, and the man will be forced to sell his farm. By then, he will probably realize he is too urbanite to really feel like doing the work that is needed.

My guess is that this happened on a large scale in the South, and eventually southerners bought the land back from them (just not likely the original owners who were essentially robbed by carpetbaggers). Yankees are really good at wiping out wealth outside of cities. It's what they do. Then the land has to be bought back from them, mediated, and re-developed.

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Re: Redpill Me on Reconstruction Era and Carpetbaggers

Post by Fife » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:00 am

Redpill incoming.


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Southern Reconstruction
The Reconstruction Era—the years immediately following the Civil War when Congress directed the reintegration of the former Confederate states into the Union—remains, as historian Eric Foner suggests, “America’s unfinished revolution.” But Reconstruction is more than a story of great racial injustice; it has left a complex legacy involving both blacks and whites, Southerners and Northerners, that is reflected today by the fact that many of the states with the highest rates of poverty were part of the former Confederacy. In Southern Reconstruction, Philip Leigh examines Federal wartime legislation in order to broaden our understanding of Reconstruction, revealing how it led to African Americans being used as political pawns, first to ensure continued Republican rule, and finally to be blamed for the South’s hardships in order to draw poor whites away from Populism and back to the aristocratic white Democratic banner.

Civil War laws, such as the Confiscation Acts, Pacific Railroad Acts, Homestead Act, Legal Tender Act, National Banking Act, and Veterans Pensions Acts, transformed America’s banking system, built a railroad web, and launched the Gilded Age in the North and West, but it also created a dubious alliance between banks and government, sparked corruption, purposely depressed Southern industry, trapped Southern farmers—both black and white—in endless annual peonage cycles, and failed to provide lands for freedmen. While Reconstruction was intended to return the South to the Union, it could not be effective with laws that abetted Southern poverty, disfranchised many whites, fostered racial animosity to a point where lynchings and Jim Crow laws erupted, and lined the pockets of wealthy or politically well-connected business leaders outside of the region.

A review of Southern Reconstruction by Philip Leigh (Westholme, 2017).
Leigh consistently punches holes in the modern “unfinished revolution” narrative and shows real sympathy for the plight of Southerners after four years of hard fighting. For example, those who believe that Southerners were not punished enough by the War, that somehow they should have been made to pay reparations or have their property confiscated, are shocked into reality. Leigh contends that Southerners did pay reparations in the form of Union veteran pensions, many of which were fraudulent and excessive, while at the same time having to come up with pennies to support their own veterans. He additionally points to the tepid interest in confiscatory policies by the majority of the Northern population, including Abraham Lincoln himself, as the reason massive land redistribution never took place. His position is not a lament for “what could have been,” but a practical understanding of what the vast majority of Americans were thinking at the time. Private property was still the cornerstone of American society, and confiscation, no matter the reason, was viewed as an immoral violation of liberty and a punitive police that very few could support. Northern self-righteousness only went so far.

Leigh makes clear that the Gilded Age would not have been possible without the political and economic corruption of Reconstruction. Northern banking and industrial interests fattened their wallets while Southerners, both white and black, faced malnutrition and few economic prospects. Southern governments controlled by “carpetbaggers” and “scalawags” raised taxes and spent lavishly. This is dangerous territory for any modern historian. The contemporary narrative argues that Reconstruction governments were models of fiscal restraint and only spent because of their overarching humanitarian concerns for the wellbeing of freedmen. Leigh calls it being “railroaded” and insists corrupt deals for railroad construction undergirded bloated state budgets. This is an almost sacrilegious assertion but one that Leigh argues well.

One gets the sense in reading Leigh’s book that the real tragedy of Reconstruction was a missed opportunity of real reconciliation, not just for the sections, but for Southerners of all races.

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Re: Redpill Me on Reconstruction Era and Carpetbaggers

Post by Ex-California » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:27 am

Well, that book is going on the list
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