The Green Leap Forward

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The Green Leap Forward

Post by Fife » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:34 am

ITT we discuss the new thing glommed onto by all the *best* DNC candidates. This newest promise of salvation from the Chapel of St. Marx of the Church of Gaia comes in the revelations of the Green New Deal, described beautifully by Dave Smith as the Green Leap Forward.

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/poli ... -new-gods/

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/321268/

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Ocasio-Cortez Gaslights ‘Green New Deal’
Office deletes 'farting cows' document, adviser pretends it never existed

The office of democratic socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has deleted a supplemental document explaining how to implement her "Green New Deal" that called for a jobs guarantee even for those "unwilling to work" and the elimination of "farting cows" and airplanes.

Robert Hockett, a Cornell law professor and adviser to Ocasio-Cortez, appeared on Tucker Carlson Tonight on Fox News on Friday and claimed Republicans doctored official documents that came directly from the congresswoman's office.


WATCH: A policy adviser for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez straight-up lied to Tucker Carlson on Friday night


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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by Fife » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:36 am

Fife wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:25 am
Indeed, the federal city doesn't have an income issue. Quite the opposite.

If anyone is interested in reading, here's another decent short piece about the latest offerings of the crack dealers in the district:

The “Green New Deal” Is a Fiscal Fantasy
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is economically illiterate—but what is Paul Krugman’s excuse?

Defending the proposed high marginal tax rate, Krugman displays a graph showing the top tax rate mapped against economic growth—growth being strongest when the top rate was highest. But perhaps that period of high growth was driven by the low effective tax rate on the wealthy during those years of ostensibly high statutory rates. This explanation is as plausible as any other, though Krugman does not discuss how much tax the wealthy actually paid in the 1950s. Nor does he concede that economic growth rates over the last 70 years may have been affected by anything besides the movement in the top statutory tax rate.

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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by Fife » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:37 am

Fife wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:39 am
From the Dept. of Imaginary Money:

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/321136/

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Re: The Green Leap Forward

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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:54 am

I’m more fascinated that they allowed her to release this without any serious review or vetting.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by DBTrek » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:05 am

She’s claiming the supplemental document never existed, or was doctored by Republicans? WTF?
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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:08 am

It doesn't work without nuclear. People are talking about this as if all power waveforms are substitutable. They are not. You are not going to run a modern industry on the wind and solar power we generate today. What you get out of our coal/gas/nuclear power plants is perfectly formed AC power at a steady rate. To plug in solar and wind energy causes so many problems to the grid it's almost not worth it.

Great for local things like small farms or running a water pump. Not so great on the grid.

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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:15 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:08 am
It doesn't work without nuclear. People are talking about this as if all power waveforms are substitutable. They are not. You are not going to run a modern industry on the wind and solar power we generate today. What you get out of our coal/gas/nuclear power plants is perfectly formed AC power at a steady rate. To plug in solar and wind energy causes so many problems to the grid it's almost not worth it.

Great for local things like small farms or running a water pump. Not so great on the grid.
The power can be regulated pretty easily. The real problem is storage. The entire thing depends on better mass battery technology.
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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by pineapplemike » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:25 am

DBTrek wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:05 am
She’s claiming the supplemental document never existed, or was doctored by Republicans? WTF?
there were a few fake documents floating around, i forgot who, but some prominent-ish righty got fooled by one. this is the angle that the dude on tucker was taking, even though he's since been proven wrong

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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:33 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:15 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:08 am
It doesn't work without nuclear. People are talking about this as if all power waveforms are substitutable. They are not. You are not going to run a modern industry on the wind and solar power we generate today. What you get out of our coal/gas/nuclear power plants is perfectly formed AC power at a steady rate. To plug in solar and wind energy causes so many problems to the grid it's almost not worth it.

Great for local things like small farms or running a water pump. Not so great on the grid.
The power can be regulated pretty easily. The real problem is storage. The entire thing depends on better mass battery technology.

Incorrect. It's more complicated than that. You get harmonic problems that wreck the grid.