War Authority Project: Ideas needed

[C-Mag]

I propose we find a way to force Congress to take back authority and responsibility for war.

Given the backlash on Trump pulling troops out of Syrai, I'd like Trump to welcome the new Congress by demanding the debate and authorize all these wars or he will pull the troops back. (I stole that from an unremembered article)

How do we do it?
Is this an issue our host would take up, as a springboard to make himself famous?

Ideas are welcome?

Note: The Border Wall GoFundMe made me realize there are Social Media platforms that can affect policy.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Honestly, unless the media picks up the idea, I don’t see how to get the unwashed masses to care.

[C-Mag]

If we can spread the germ across forums like this, and eventually get it to big forums like Reddit, the press and media will have to address the idea.

[nmoore63]

I don't think the founders foresaw that people would voluntarily give up power for money.

The two ways I know to achieve this would be:

1) General congressional accountability. This specific power would come back if they were held accountable generally, nothing specific to war powers is really need.

2) Make war more real. More conscription or direct taxes.

[pineapplemike]

Are photos of dead troops in coffins still banned from the media by the Pentagon? I know troops aren't KIA often anymore but it does still happen. Flipping that rule would be a small step towards undermining the US war machine overseas

[C-Mag]

Are photos of dead troops in coffins still banned from the media by the Pentagon? I know troops aren't KIA often anymore but it does still happen. Flipping that rule would be a small step towards undermining the US war machine overseas

I have no idea. I never thought that was the best route to go, but it wouldn't hurt. I think a Draft is the way to get folks interested.

[heydaralon]

Are photos of dead troops in coffins still banned from the media by the Pentagon? I know troops aren't KIA often anymore but it does still happen. Flipping that rule would be a small step towards undermining the US war machine overseas

No it wouldn't. People might protest to end that war, but we would 100% still fight the next one. If you can find me a war that the draft kept us out of, due to public outrage, I'd love to read about it. I also challenge the idea that the draft makes war less violent or last less time. The Vietnam war went on far longer than people realize, and in its early stages it resembled much of the way our policy in the Mid east is conducted now. Additionally, every major draft war we have fought in this country's history has had far higher body counts than our present volunteer ones.

Mind you, I am not saying the draft is bad. In fact, it might be a great thing. I am also not supportive of any war we have been in since WW2. I just do not buy the Dan Carlin/Bacevich idea that a draft stops wars or bloodshed. Our bloodiest ones have been draft wars.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Are photos of dead troops in coffins still banned from the media by the Pentagon? I know troops aren't KIA often anymore but it does still happen. Flipping that rule would be a small step towards undermining the US war machine overseas

No it wouldn't. People might protest to end that war, but we would 100% still fight the next one. If you can find me a war that the draft kept us out of, due to public outrage, I'd love to read about it. I also challenge the idea that the draft makes war less violent or last less time. The Vietnam war went on far longer than people realize, and in its early stages it resembled much of the way our policy in the Mid east is conducted now. Additionally, every major draft war we have fought in this country's history has had far higher body counts than our present volunteer ones.

Mind you, I am not saying the draft is bad. In fact, it might be a great thing. I am also not supportive of any war we have been in since WW2. I just do not buy the Dan Carlin/Bacevich idea that a draft stops wars or bloodshed. Our bloodiest ones have been draft wars.

Not a causal relationship, IMO. Make no mistake, we would have a draft, if we got into another really bloody war.

The reality is though, that we ended drafts because we don’t need that many troops. Nuclear weapons have all but eliminated the need for massed armies.

[C-Mag]

Are photos of dead troops in coffins still banned from the media by the Pentagon? I know troops aren't KIA often anymore but it does still happen. Flipping that rule would be a small step towards undermining the US war machine overseas

No it wouldn't. People might protest to end that war, but we would 100% still fight the next one. If you can find me a war that the draft kept us out of, due to public outrage, I'd love to read about it. I also challenge the idea that the draft makes war less violent or last less time. The Vietnam war went on far longer than people realize, and in its early stages it resembled much of the way our policy in the Mid east is conducted now. Additionally, every major draft war we have fought in this country's history has had far higher body counts than our present volunteer ones.

Mind you, I am not saying the draft is bad. In fact, it might be a great thing. I am also not supportive of any war we have been in since WW2. I just do not buy the Dan Carlin/Bacevich idea that a draft stops wars or bloodshed. Our bloodiest ones have been draft wars.

Not a causal relationship, IMO. Make no mistake, we would have a draft, if we got into another really bloody war.

The reality is though, that we ended drafts because we don’t need that many troops. Nuclear weapons have all but eliminated the need for massed armies.

We will need your kids for the next wars against Iran, China and Russia. Get them ready

[SuburbanFarmer]

No it wouldn't. People might protest to end that war, but we would 100% still fight the next one. If you can find me a war that the draft kept us out of, due to public outrage, I'd love to read about it. I also challenge the idea that the draft makes war less violent or last less time. The Vietnam war went on far longer than people realize, and in its early stages it resembled much of the way our policy in the Mid east is conducted now. Additionally, every major draft war we have fought in this country's history has had far higher body counts than our present volunteer ones.

Mind you, I am not saying the draft is bad. In fact, it might be a great thing. I am also not supportive of any war we have been in since WW2. I just do not buy the Dan Carlin/Bacevich idea that a draft stops wars or bloodshed. Our bloodiest ones have been draft wars.

Not a causal relationship, IMO. Make no mistake, we would have a draft, if we got into another really bloody war.

The reality is though, that we ended drafts because we don’t need that many troops. Nuclear weapons have all but eliminated the need for massed armies.

We will need your kids for the next wars against Iran, China and Russia. Get them ready

Those wars would be over in 15 minutes. My kids will die whether they’re here or there. It makes no difference.