Washington Post: Why Can't We Hate Men?

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Opinions
Why can’t we hate men?

By Suzanna Danuta Walters
June 8 at 8:13 PM
Suzanna Danuta Walters, a professor of sociology and director of the Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies Program at Northeastern University, is the editor of the gender studies journal Signs.

It’s not that Eric Schneiderman (the now-former New York attorney general accused of abuse by multiple women) pushed me over the edge. My edge has been crossed for a long time, before President Trump, before Harvey Weinstein, before “mansplaining” and “incels.” Before live-streaming sexual assaults and red pill men’s groups and rape camps as a tool of war and the deadening banality of male prerogative.

Seen in this indisputably true context, it seems logical to hate men. I can’t lie, I’ve always had a soft spot for the radical feminist smackdown, for naming the problem in no uncertain terms. I’ve rankled at the “but we don’t hate men” protestations of generations of would-be feminists and found the “men are not the problem, this system is” obfuscation too precious by half.

But, of course, the criticisms of this blanket condemnation of men — from transnational feminists who decry such glib universalism to U.S. women of color who demand an intersectional perspective — are mostly on the mark. These critics rightly insist on an analysis of male power as institutional, not narrowly personal or individual or biologically based in male bodies. Growing movements to challenge a masculinity built on domination and violence and to engage boys and men in feminism are both gratifying and necessary. Please continue.

But this recognition of the complexity of male domination (how different it can be in different parts of the world, how racism shapes it) should not — must not — mean we forget some universal facts.

Pretty much everywhere in the world, this is true: Women experience sexual violence, and the threat of that violence permeates our choices big and small. In addition, male violence is not restricted to intimate-partner attacks or sexual assault but plagues us in the form of terrorism and mass gun violence...

...The world has little place for feminist anger. Women are supposed to support, not condemn, offer succor not dismissal. We’re supposed to feel more empathy for your fear of being called a harasser than we are for the women harassed. We are told he’s with us and #NotHim. But, truly, if he were with us, wouldn’t this all have ended a long time ago? If he really were with us, wouldn’t he reckon that one good way to change structural violence and inequity would be to refuse the power that comes with it?

So men, if you really are #WithUs and would like us to not hate you for all the millennia of woe you have produced and benefited from, start with this: Lean out so we can actually just stand up without being beaten down. Pledge to vote for feminist women only. Don’t run for office. Don’t be in charge of anything. Step away from the power. We got this. And please know that your crocodile tears won’t be wiped away by us anymore. We have every right to hate you. You have done us wrong. #BecausePatriarchy. It is long past time to play hard for Team Feminism. And win.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 55f32ad830

http://archive.is/AM4mI

[Fife]

tl;dr:

[SuburbanFarmer]

Jeez, what a cunt.

[PartyOf5]

In other words, surrender to us and beg forgiveness for things many of you have never done. She doesn't want equality, she wants the power to abuse others because somehow it's her turn.

No thanks.

[doc_loliday]

Cold as ice. Not even a "And some, I assume, are good people."

[Okeefenokee]

#BecausePatriarchy

Sums it up.

[Speaker to Animals]

Feminism is partially affirmative action for old and ugly women. The other part seems to be a support group for them to hate men for not finding them attractive, and to scout out new lesbian romances where one can pretend she is a man. Which is the source of the problem: they want to be men, but they can't cut the mustard. Notice how women who actually do compete with men without that affirmative action garbage don't need this shit. They just go to work and pull their own weight, and often have no trouble attracting men, or maintaining healthy marriages.

MRA and feminism are both packed with people who have some serious personal problems. Lots of MRAs are victims of feminism, so it's not exactly a fair comparison, since most feminists leave a trail of misery and death behind them through life, all caused by them.

[Ph64]

Opinions
Why can’t we hate men?

By Suzanna Danuta Walters
June 8 at 8:13 PM
Suzanna Danuta Walters, a professor of sociology and director of the Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies Program at Northeastern University, is the editor of the gender studies journal Signs.

It’s not that Eric Schneiderman (the now-former New York attorney general accused of abuse by multiple women) pushed me over the edge. My edge has been crossed for a long time, before President Trump, before Harvey Weinstein, before “mansplaining” and “incels.” Before live-streaming sexual assaults and red pill men’s groups and rape camps as a tool of war and the deadening banality of male prerogative.

Seen in this indisputably true context, it seems logical to hate men. I can’t lie, I’ve always had a soft spot for the radical feminist smackdown, for naming the problem in no uncertain terms. I’ve rankled at the “but we don’t hate men” protestations of generations of would-be feminists and found the “men are not the problem, this system is” obfuscation too precious by half.

But, of course, the criticisms of this blanket condemnation of men — from transnational feminists who decry such glib universalism to U.S. women of color who demand an intersectional perspective — are mostly on the mark. These critics rightly insist on an analysis of male power as institutional, not narrowly personal or individual or biologically based in male bodies. Growing movements to challenge a masculinity built on domination and violence and to engage boys and men in feminism are both gratifying and necessary. Please continue.

But this recognition of the complexity of male domination (how different it can be in different parts of the world, how racism shapes it) should not — must not — mean we forget some universal facts.

Pretty much everywhere in the world, this is true: Women experience sexual violence, and the threat of that violence permeates our choices big and small. In addition, male violence is not restricted to intimate-partner attacks or sexual assault but plagues us in the form of terrorism and mass gun violence...

...The world has little place for feminist anger. Women are supposed to support, not condemn, offer succor not dismissal. We’re supposed to feel more empathy for your fear of being called a harasser than we are for the women harassed. We are told he’s with us and #NotHim. But, truly, if he were with us, wouldn’t this all have ended a long time ago? If he really were with us, wouldn’t he reckon that one good way to change structural violence and inequity would be to refuse the power that comes with it?

So men, if you really are #WithUs and would like us to not hate you for all the millennia of woe you have produced and benefited from, start with this: Lean out so we can actually just stand up without being beaten down. Pledge to vote for feminist women only. Don’t run for office. Don’t be in charge of anything. Step away from the power. We got this. And please know that your crocodile tears won’t be wiped away by us anymore. We have every right to hate you. You have done us wrong. #BecausePatriarchy. It is long past time to play hard for Team Feminism. And win.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 55f32ad830

http://archive.is/AM4mI

I've got a great idea to help her...

Men, let's stop collecting the garbage, stop fixing the sewage systems, water systems, roads, no more fixing the power lines when a storm blows through... Her dishwasher breaks, toilet backs up, leaky pipe? Fuck you, fix it yourself. Leaky roof? Tough. Flat tire? Hope you know how to change it because the AAA guys won't be coming, the tow trucks aren't leaving the station for you.

Let's see how long it takes for them to figure out all we do to keep their world of conveniences running.

[clubgop]

Jeez, what a cunt.

So you agree with Bee and want to take back the word and cunt is now a good thing. Got it.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Jeez, what a cunt.

So you agree with Bee and want to take back the word and cunt is now a good thing. Got it.

Whatever helps you, I guess.