California to Mandate Solar Panels on all new homes

[nmoore63]

http://www.fortune.com/2018/05/07/calif ... r-mandate/

California is about to become the first state in the U.S.—and possibly the first government in the world—to require solar power installations on all new homes.

[Ex-California]

And people wonder why everting is so expensive here...

[nmoore63]

And people wonder why everting is so expensive here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

With no personal knowledge of metallurgy, Mao encouraged the establishment of small backyard steel furnaces in every commune and in each urban neighborhood. Mao was shown an example of a backyard furnace in Hefei, Anhui in September 1958 by provincial first secretary Zeng Xisheng.[19] The unit was claimed to be manufacturing high quality steel.[19]

Huge efforts on the part of peasants and other workers were made to produce steel out of scrap metal. To fuel the furnaces, the local environment was denuded of trees and wood taken from the doors and furniture of peasants' houses. Pots, pans, and other metal artifacts were requisitioned to supply the "scrap" for the furnaces so that the wildly optimistic production targets could be met. Many of the male agricultural workers were diverted from the harvest to help the iron production as were the workers at many factories, schools, and even hospitals. Although the output consisted of low quality lumps of pig iron which was of negligible economic worth, Mao had a deep distrust of intellectuals who could have pointed this out and instead placed his faith in the power of the mass mobilization of the peasants.

Moreover, the experience of the intellectual classes following the Hundred Flowers Campaign silenced those aware of the folly of such a plan. According to his private doctor, Li Zhisui, Mao and his entourage visited traditional steel works in Manchuria in January 1959 where he found out that high quality steel could only be produced in large-scale factories using reliable fuel such as coal. However, he decided not to order a halt to the backyard steel furnaces so as not to dampen the revolutionary enthusiasm of the masses. The program was only quietly abandoned much later in that year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backyard_furnace

Backyard furnaces were small steel blast furnaces used by the people of China during the Great Leap Forward (1958–62).[1][2] These were constructed in the backyards of the communes, hence their names. People used every type of fuel they could to power these furnaces, from coal to the wood of coffins. Where iron ore was unavailable, they melted any steel objects they could get their hands on, including pots and pans, and even bicycles, to make steel girders, but these girders were useless, as the steel was impure and of poor quality and thus cracked easily. Unbeknownst to the Communist Party officials, the result was not steel, but high carbon pig iron, which needs to be decarburized to make steel.

The results varied from region to region. In regions where the steelmaking tradition had survived unbroken, where the old skills of the ironmasters had not been forgotten, the pig iron was indeed further refined into steel, and the steel production actually did increase. In regions that had no traditions of steelmaking, or the old ironmasters had been killed, or if there was no theoretical understanding of the blast furnace process and refining of the pig iron, the results were unsatisfactory. At worst, the fuel used was high-sulfur coal, rendering even the resulting pig iron useless and needing to be re-smelted and desulfurized.

[Okeefenokee]

It'll work this time...

[DBTrek]

You know it’s an effective, environmentally friendly, and economically sound decision - which is why the government has to force people to do it.
Right?

Sometimes you just have to put a gun to the head of the people so they can finally see what’s good for them.

[Ph64]

...and they'll probably mandate a deal with Solar City, bailing out California angel Elon Musk while padding the pockets of the politicians with "campaign donations"...

[nmoore63]

Some day you will be able to tour all the houses with none working solar roofs because the people that built them only wanted to check the boxes so they will buy panels with only 30 days worth of useful life in them.

As long as the iron quota is met so that we don't get shot.... I mean as long as those solar panels check the box that allows me to get a house... No, I don't care if that iron is actually useful.

[Speaker to Animals]

So maybe we really should pay some Mexican national to submit a referendum in California for secession from the United States. I am up for a road trip to vote California out.

Because.. if we don't get them out of here, all those Californians are going to migrate away and bring their cancer to the rest of America. If we can get them to secede, we can deny them entry, at least.

[de officiis]

So maybe we really should pay some Mexican national to submit a referendum in California for secession from the United States. I am up for a road trip to vote California out.

Because.. if we don't get them out of here, all those Californians are going to migrate away and bring their cancer to the rest of America. If we can get them to secede, we can deny them entry, at least.

Their stupid schemes would still infiltrate. Look at the cross pollination that goes on with Canada with all this progressive nonsense.

[Fife]

So maybe we really should pay some Mexican national to submit a referendum in California for secession from the United States. I am up for a road trip to vote California out.

Because.. if we don't get them out of here, all those Californians are going to migrate away and bring their cancer to the rest of America. If we can get them to secede, we can deny them entry, at least.

Their stupid schemes would still infiltrate. Look at the cross pollination that goes on with Canada with all this progressive nonsense.

I'm not so sure. Just think about how the Democratic Republic of California's Peoples' Reserve Bank will go all Marty Hash with adding zeroes to the value of the New Kaliforner so fast it will make even the old US Fed's head swim.

Canada is no Venezuela, at least. Bet dat. New California will have no such discipline or remaining grown-ups to teach such discipline.