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C-Mag
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by C-Mag » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:37 pm
Michael Malice should move there an embrace Anarchy
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DBTrek
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by DBTrek » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:50 pm
C-Mag wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:37 pm
Michael Malice should move there an embrace Anarchy
Heavily subsidized anarchy, as it were.
Anarchy for the lower class.
Free market for the upper class.
Despotism for the middle class.
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SuburbanFarmer
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by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:46 pm
I’m in favor of this, actually. Force the police to prove their case.
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by Speakswiththumbs » Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:18 pm
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by Ph64 » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:44 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:46 pm
I’m in favor of this, actually. Force the police to prove their case.
Prove what case? You could have video of them entering a store, pointing a pistol at the shop owner, and stealing money or goods... And the DA will refuse to prosecute. In fact now being a homeless drug addict is officially a valid "excuse" for said behavior in Seattle.
If I were a cop in one of these leftist hellhole cities I wouldn't be even worrying about proving anything other than proving that when enough cops bail for better jobs in nicer places the city will become rampant with crime.
"People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome."
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SuburbanFarmer
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by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:59 pm
Ph64 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:44 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:46 pm
I’m in favor of this, actually. Force the police to prove their case.
Prove what case? You could have video of them entering a store, pointing a pistol at the shop owner, and stealing money or goods... And the DA will refuse to prosecute. In fact now being a homeless drug addict is officially a valid "excuse" for said behavior in Seattle.
If I were a cop in one of these leftist hellhole cities I wouldn't be even worrying about proving anything other than proving that when enough cops bail for better jobs in nicer places the city will become rampant with crime.
The article directly mentions putting ‘suspects’ of violent crime away for drug offenses. I’m not ok with that, and I don’t think the drug offenses warrant prison time.
If you want to get someone for armed robbery, then prove that they did it. That’s how the system is supposed to work.
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by Ph64 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:25 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:59 pm
Ph64 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:44 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:46 pm
I’m in favor of this, actually. Force the police to prove their case.
Prove what case? You could have video of them entering a store, pointing a pistol at the shop owner, and stealing money or goods... And the DA will refuse to prosecute. In fact now being a homeless drug addict is officially a valid "excuse" for said behavior in Seattle.
If I were a cop in one of these leftist hellhole cities I wouldn't be even worrying about proving anything other than proving that when enough cops bail for better jobs in nicer places the city will become rampant with crime.
The article directly mentions putting ‘suspects’ of violent crime away for drug offenses. I’m not ok with that, and I don’t think the drug offenses warrant prison time.
If you want to get someone for armed robbery, then prove that they did it. That’s how the system is supposed to work.
Everyone is a "suspect" until they are convicted (or not) in a court based on the evidence. You don't "get someone for armed robbery" without a trial with evidence presented, and the ability to "prove" it beyond a reasonable doubt.
When a DA drops the charges despite the evidence based purely on an ideology that says "if they're a minority, or homeless, or an addict, they should get a pass" then the system will be biased.
"People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome."
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SuburbanFarmer
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by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:59 am
Ph64 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:25 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:59 pm
Ph64 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:44 pm
Prove what case? You could have video of them entering a store, pointing a pistol at the shop owner, and stealing money or goods... And the DA will refuse to prosecute. In fact now being a homeless drug addict is officially a valid "excuse" for said behavior in Seattle.
If I were a cop in one of these leftist hellhole cities I wouldn't be even worrying about proving anything other than proving that when enough cops bail for better jobs in nicer places the city will become rampant with crime.
The article directly mentions putting ‘suspects’ of violent crime away for drug offenses. I’m not ok with that, and I don’t think the drug offenses warrant prison time.
If you want to get someone for armed robbery, then prove that they did it. That’s how the system is supposed to work.
Everyone is a "suspect" until they are convicted (or not) in a court based on the evidence. You don't "get someone for armed robbery" without a trial with evidence presented, and the ability to "prove" it beyond a reasonable doubt.
When a DA drops the charges despite the evidence based purely on an ideology that says "if they're a minority, or homeless, or an addict, they should get a pass" then the system will be biased.
It will indeed. And I’m all gotcha going the DA system, or some other measure. But I’m fine with legalizing drugs. And the argument that it would increase violent crime simply doesn’t hold water. If anything, it would cause an incredible drop in gang activity.
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C-Mag
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by C-Mag » Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:38 am
PLATA O PLOMO
Don't fear authority, Fear Obedience