Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by Ph64 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:28 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:48 pm
AverageJoe wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:55 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:54 pm


19th C diseases are making a nice comeback on the West Coast.
Outbreak Of Flea-Borne Diseases Typhus:
Los Angeles Descends Into Third World Hellscape

https://thedailycoin.org/2019/02/05/out ... hellscape/
And brewing nearby....Third Wyoming cat infected with bubonic plague
Bubonic Plague has been on the high desert plains for probably over 100 years. Some researchers don't believe it's the same strain as the Black Death of Europe in the 14th C. Lots of gophers carry it too.
Maybe we should ship some gophers south of the border. :roll:

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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by DBTrek » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:47 pm

How would we get them past the wall?
Oh wait, that’s right.
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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:50 am

Black Death was not the plague.

For instance.. the black death swept through Iceland pretty fast.

Iceland had no rats in the medieval period.

Cities were quarantined in later outbreaks. No humans were allowed out. Black death did not get out. Yet rats were free to come and go.

Symptoms were all wrong for plague. Incubation period was wrong.

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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:45 am

Black Death is Yersinia pestis, bubonic plague, proven by grave exhumation
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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:48 am

That only proved that people had bubonic plague, not that it was the cause of the black death.

You should read that research. Black death seems to be the same thing that caused the contagion in Athens during the Spartan siege. Symptoms are not the same as plague at all. 21 day incubation period not the same. Transmission not the same.
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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:49 am

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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:51 am

You just have to read. I am not a medieval historian or an epidemiologist, but the people who showed this are.

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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by Hastur » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:00 am

It was the plague. But it was mostly transmitted by body lice and human fleas after the first wave killed off the host rats.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 112420.htm
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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:11 am

There exist other theories and very good reasons to doubt it was the plague.

Symptoms, incubation period, and transmission was NOT like plague.

Humans in the old world dealt with the plague for thousands of years before the black death. It's still around today. Black death was more likely something very different.

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Re: Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:16 am

In particular: incubation period for plague is a few days; incubation period for black death is well proven via parish records and historical accounts to be 21 days.

The black death literally turned your insides into black goo you projectile vomited. Buboles were all over your body. The descriptions of the suffering are easily found and they have nothing in common with plague other than buboles, but plague buboles are just in the areas the victim was bitten.

The plague theory does not meet basic standards of parsimony. You have to assume all kinds of special cases and exceptions to make it fit.