Draining the Swamp

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Re: Draining the Swamp

Post by C-Mag » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:52 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:48 pm
pineapplemike wrote:
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toss wray, haspel, pompeo and bolton for starters. who else is in there that needs to go?
Andrew Wheeler.
You don't get much more swampy than appointing a former coal lobbyist as the head of the EPA.
I wouldn't have named him, but I wouldn't object to him going either.

Suddenly the press is worried about out intelligence apparatus being politicized :lol:

If we put Ratcliffe in as DNI, we will lose our Democracy to Russia ! :?
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Re: Draining the Swamp

Post by Fife » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:59 pm

About the only thing swampier is not disbanding the EPA and auctioning off its assets.

Baby steps I reckon. So it goes.

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Re: Draining the Swamp

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:02 pm

Might as well if fossil fuel lackeys are being put in charge.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: Draining the Swamp

Post by C-Mag » Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:08 pm

Fife wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:59 pm
About the only thing swampier is not disbanding the EPA and auctioning off its assets.

Baby steps I reckon. So it goes.
What are you talking about ?

Before EPA ………………………………………………………………………………………………. After EPA
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Re: Draining the Swamp

Post by Fife » Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:16 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:02 pm
Might as well if fossil fuel lackeys are being put in charge.
No shit, Sherlock.

It's the "put in charge" part that seems to be clogging your manifold.
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Re: Draining the Swamp

Post by C-Mag » Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:53 pm

Here's a highly respected and trusted former DNI

The US embassy in Benghazi was raided on the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 ... this was some kind of spontaneous demonstration
~ James Clapper September 2012



I guess that's the kind of guy they trust, one that won't politicize the office :?
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Re: Draining the Swamp

Post by The Conservative » Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:27 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:25 pm
pineapplemike wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:18 pm
toss wray, haspel, pompeo and bolton for starters. who else is in there that needs to go?
+10
That's a great start. Real reform would be tearing apart the Senior Executive Service. That is the seed bed of all these life long bureaucrats.


Here's what anti trumpers are saying about Ratcliffe
Why not just remove the entire top tiers of the FBI/CIA and have them attempt for their jobs again, if they were not found part of the coop they can get their jobs back with a caveat that they are on probation until the investigation is done.
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Re: Draining the Swamp

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:38 pm

Fife wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:16 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:02 pm
Might as well if fossil fuel lackeys are being put in charge.
No shit, Sherlock.

It's the "put in charge" part that seems to be clogging your manifold.
Surely, putting someone in charge who gives a flying fuck about the environment is a better solution than shutting the agency down.
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Re: Draining the Swamp

Post by C-Mag » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:35 am

Great article on what is wrong with our intelligence community
https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-bloat ... 10401.html


We need to take an ax to this bloated bureaucracy
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Re: Draining the Swamp

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:33 pm

Nassim Taleb has a decent argument that the very idea of centralized intelligence is flawed in a similar way that directed research is usually pointless in terms of whatever goal according to which it is directed.

Probably needs to be more distributed and exploratory. No end goal per se. Just gather intelligence and try to make sense of it different windows.

Have somebody else try to package that into directed intelligence in a similar fashion to how meta analysis is where scientific research really shines.