This is getting ridiculous - Credit Scores and car insurance

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This is getting ridiculous - Credit Scores and car insurance

Post by jediuser598 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:14 am

Your score is used to measure your creditworthiness—the likelihood that you’ll pay back a loan or credit-card debt. But you might not know that car insurers are also rifling through your credit files to do something completely different: to predict the odds that you’ll file a claim. And if they think that your credit isn’t up to their highest standard, they will charge you more, even if you have never had an accident, our price data show.

Cherry-picking about 30 of almost 130 elements in a credit report, each insurer creates a proprietary score that’s very different from the FICO score you might be familiar with, so that one can’t be used to guess the other reliably.

The increase in your premium can be significant. Our single drivers who had merely good scores paid $68 to $526 more per year, on average, than similar drivers with the best scores, depending on the state they called home.

And your credit score could have more of an impact on your premium price than any other factor. For our single drivers in Kansas, for instance, one moving violation would increase their premium by $122 per year, on average. But a score that was considered just good would boost it by $233, even if they had a flawless driving record. A poor credit score could add $1,301 to their premium, on average.
https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/car ... /index.htm

We need to burn it to the ground.

Here's my problem, where's the "opt-out"? Say I don't want to deal with this whole credit nonsense at all, I have to go to each credit bureau and have them freeze my credit, at a cost of $15 per one. We really should get a law passed that says a citizen can just opt out of these things, without a need to pay them $15 each.
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Re: This is getting ridiculous - Credit Scores and car insurance

Post by jediuser598 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:34 am

For example, in Washington State, having poor credit is worse than having a DWI and excellent credit:

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/car ... #creditmap

Poor credit being $1,536 more.

DWI with excellent credit $847 more.
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Re: This is getting ridiculous - Credit Scores and car insurance

Post by C-Mag » Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:24 am

It won't be long and insurance companies will be buying Google data to charge you for driving what they consider high risk roads.
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Re: This is getting ridiculous - Credit Scores and car insurance

Post by de officiis » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:54 am

I wonder what’ll happen to the insurers once self-driving cars are truly reliable and the tech is perfected.
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Re: This is getting ridiculous - Credit Scores and car insurance

Post by jediuser598 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:00 pm

de officiis wrote:I wonder what’ll happen to the insurers once self-driving cars are truly reliable and the tech is perfected.
Yeah I'm wondering that too. Then since your driving isn't on the table, it'll probably be solely based off of your credit and the amount of time you've been with your current provider.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:19 pm

Did you not fix your damn credit yet?

The insurance company doesn't owe you shit.
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Re: This is getting ridiculous - Credit Scores and car insurance

Post by Ex-California » Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:27 am

We're heading towards that China model
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Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:17 am

Your credit score is a measure of you taken by the people who you want to borrow money from.

You have no right whatsoever to force others to lend money to you on your terms.

Insurance companies do not owe you a fucking thing.

I'm real fucking tired of this endless refrain from people crying because others don't want to extend endless lines of credit to people who haven't met the mark.

To me, it's nothing more than lazy, untrustworthy sloths who expect the rest of us to give them anything they want, simply because they have a pulse and believe they are entitled to other people's worth.

No one with the funds you are seeking is obligated to give it you on equal grounds as the person who has demonstrated that they are far more likely to pay them back.

Getting your credit in order is not witchcraft. It isn't a mystery.

In the last two years, I bought two cars and two houses, and my credit rating took a hit for asking for it. They didn't owe me shit, so I didn't whine about it.

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Stop whining about other people not trusting you to borrow money and get your fucking house in order.
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Re: This is getting ridiculous - Credit Scores and car insurance

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:26 pm

Just move illegally to Mexico, take up odd jobs under the table, and drive without a license. Then, when you get pulled over for a DUI (or whatever they call it down there), you won't take a hit on your car insurance.

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Re: This is getting ridiculous - Credit Scores and car insurance

Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:35 pm

They call that the Mexican dream.
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