Weed legalization thread

[Okeefenokee]

I am claiming that before the 1960s, the South mostly voted Democrat and ever since they've mostly voted Republican.

1. How many votes does, "the south," get, or would it be more accurate to say people in the south?

2. Are we talking about the same people who voted in 1861, 1950, and 2018 living for hundreds of years, or was there some turnover making this continuity idea a little delusional?

1) It is more accurate to say "people in the south" sure.
2) There was some turnover, but a lot of "people in the south" simply flipped parties from Democrat to Republican, and there is plenty of continuity. Some turnover doesn't negate that.

You're talking about generational trends, taking place across decades, where millions of people were born, grew up, and replaced older generations, and trying to tie that to one point in time in order to satisfy a narrative that asserts that southerners are racist.

If the 1968 flip actually happened over night, and southerners all abandoned the party of jim crow en masse, and joined the party that passed the civil rights act, it would seem that the idea that those people did so because they're racist is just as absurd.

[Okeefenokee]

A better way of putting it is that southern Christians abandoned the democratic party when the democratic party abandoned God. Most of the racist garbage that happens in southern politics is still perpetrated by the democrats. Same as it ever was in every region of the US.

A lot of those southern racists flipped though, so that is less true in the South than it is in the North, post-Southern Strategy. Plenty of racists in both parties, the Democrats don't have a monopoly, and they never did.

Why did the racists abandon the party of jim crow and join the party that passed the civil rights act?

[StCapps]

A better way of putting it is that southern Christians abandoned the democratic party when the democratic party abandoned God. Most of the racist garbage that happens in southern politics is still perpetrated by the democrats. Same as it ever was in every region of the US.

A lot of those southern racists flipped though, so that is less true in the South than it is in the North, post-Southern Strategy. Plenty of racists in both parties, the Democrats don't have a monopoly, and they never did.

Why did the racists abandon the party of jim crow and join the party that passed the civil rights act?

Because the Civil Rights Act passed under a Democrat POTUS, so they got the credit for being the party of the CRA. Barry Goldwater further entrenched that perception.

[Speaker to Animals]

The Civil Rights Act was by the republicans. A Democrat president happened to sign it. ALL of the opposition to it came from democrats.

[StCapps]

The Civil Rights Act was by the republicans. A Democrat president happened to sign it. ALL of the opposition to it came from democrats.

Barry Goldwater wasn't a Democrat, last I checked.
/shrugs

LBJ and JFK from the grave, they got most of the credit, despite Republicans passing the bill, most voters aren't policy wonks.

Barry Goldwater was turned into the poster boy for CRA opposition, blame the media if you want, but that's what happened.

[K@th]

[DBTrek]

I knew Donald would be trouble for the legalization movement when he said he’s never done drugs or drank alcohol.

It shows, Don.

It shows.

[SilverEagle]

I knew Donald would be trouble for the legalization movement when he said he’s never done drugs or drank alcohol.

It shows, Don.

It shows.

He was a young billionaire living in NYC in the 1980's. 1,000% He did coke.

[Speaker to Animals]

He's straight edge.

I think he might consume caffeine, but that's about it.

[K@th]

He was a young billionaire living in NYC in the 1980's. 1,000% He did coke.

I loathe the lying, petulant man-child, but for some reason, I believe him when he says he never did.