Kaspersky Lab Sues U.S. Government Over Software Ban

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Kaspersky Lab Sues U.S. Government Over Software Ban

Post by The Conservative » Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:56 am

Aww, poor babies, don't like when the open market works?


https://thehackernews.com/2017/12/Kaspe ... t-ban.html
Moscow-based cyber security firm Kaspersky Lab has taken the United States government to a U.S. federal court for its decision to ban the use of Kaspersky products in federal agencies and departments.
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Re: Kaspersky Lab Sues U.S. Government Over Software Ban

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:58 am

The Conservative wrote:Aww, poor babies, don't like when the open market works?


https://thehackernews.com/2017/12/Kaspe ... t-ban.html
Moscow-based cyber security firm Kaspersky Lab has taken the United States government to a U.S. federal court for its decision to ban the use of Kaspersky products in federal agencies and departments.
...that's the opposite of the open market working. What are you talking about?
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Re: Kaspersky Lab Sues U.S. Government Over Software Ban

Post by K@th » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:00 am

Literally nothing to do with open markets, but you can have a participation trophy, for sure.
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Re: Kaspersky Lab Sues U.S. Government Over Software Ban

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:01 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:Aww, poor babies, don't like when the open market works?


https://thehackernews.com/2017/12/Kaspe ... t-ban.html
Moscow-based cyber security firm Kaspersky Lab has taken the United States government to a U.S. federal court for its decision to ban the use of Kaspersky products in federal agencies and departments.
...that's the opposite of the open market working. What are you talking about?

Indeed. We have seen in the past few days exactly how "free market" certain individuals truly are.

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Re: Kaspersky Lab Sues U.S. Government Over Software Ban

Post by The Conservative » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:03 am

Kath wrote:Literally nothing to do with open markets, but you can have a participation trophy, for sure.
Oh no? Did you even read the article?

The government stopped using Kaspersky software, the market reacted and a lot of people stopped using the software too, which hurt Kaspersky's bottom line.

How is this not an open market issue?
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Re: Kaspersky Lab Sues U.S. Government Over Software Ban

Post by DBTrek » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:04 am

StA would tell you the only way to fix this is to declare antivirus software a public utility, and then randomly install whatever, because all AV solutions are the same, theyre all 1s and 0s.
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Re: Kaspersky Lab Sues U.S. Government Over Software Ban

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:05 am

The Conservative wrote:
Kath wrote:Literally nothing to do with open markets, but you can have a participation trophy, for sure.
Oh no? Did you even read the article?

The government stopped using Kaspersky software, the market reacted and a lot of people stopped using the software too, which hurt Kaspersky's bottom line.

How is this not an open market issue?
The government is attempting to ban the software, because of concerns about espionage. That's not a market issue.
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Re: Kaspersky Lab Sues U.S. Government Over Software Ban

Post by The Conservative » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:05 am

In other words, they are saying the DHS has harmed Kaspersky by reducing its ability to make money in the US market.
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:Aww, poor babies, don't like when the open market works?


https://thehackernews.com/2017/12/Kaspe ... t-ban.html
Moscow-based cyber security firm Kaspersky Lab has taken the United States government to a U.S. federal court for its decision to ban the use of Kaspersky products in federal agencies and departments.
...that's the opposite of the open market working. What are you talking about?
However, Kaspersky said the agency did not follow up with the company "until the notification regarding the issuance of Binding Operational Directive 17-01" and accusing Kaspersky products of causing infosec risks on federal information systems.

"DHS has harmed Kaspersky Lab's reputation, negatively affected the livelihoods of its U.S.-based employees and U.S.-based business partners, and undermined the company’s contributions to the broader cybersecurity community," Kaspersky wrote.

"In filing this appeal, Kaspersky Lab hopes to protect its due process rights under the US Constitution and federal law and repair the harm caused to its commercial operations, its US-based employees, and its US-based business partners."
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Re: Kaspersky Lab Sues U.S. Government Over Software Ban

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:07 am

The Conservative wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:Aww, poor babies, don't like when the open market works?


https://thehackernews.com/2017/12/Kaspe ... t-ban.html
...that's the opposite of the open market working. What are you talking about?
However, Kaspersky said the agency did not follow up with the company "until the notification regarding the issuance of Binding Operational Directive 17-01" and accusing Kaspersky products of causing infosec risks on federal information systems.
"DHS has harmed Kaspersky Lab's reputation, negatively affected the livelihoods of its U.S.-based employees and U.S.-based business partners, and undermined the company’s contributions to the broader cybersecurity community," Kaspersky wrote.
"In filing this appeal, Kaspersky Lab hopes to protect its due process rights under the US Constitution and federal law and repair the harm caused to its commercial operations, its US-based employees, and its US-based business partners."
...and the company is suing the government for the bad press. A legal issue.

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Re: Kaspersky Lab Sues U.S. Government Over Software Ban

Post by The Conservative » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:09 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
...that's the opposite of the open market working. What are you talking about?
However, Kaspersky said the agency did not follow up with the company "until the notification regarding the issuance of Binding Operational Directive 17-01" and accusing Kaspersky products of causing infosec risks on federal information systems.
"DHS has harmed Kaspersky Lab's reputation, negatively affected the livelihoods of its U.S.-based employees and U.S.-based business partners, and undermined the company’s contributions to the broader cybersecurity community," Kaspersky wrote.
"In filing this appeal, Kaspersky Lab hopes to protect its due process rights under the US Constitution and federal law and repair the harm caused to its commercial operations, its US-based employees, and its US-based business partners."
...and the company is suing the government for the bad press. A legal issue.

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Which affects their ability to make money in the open market...

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