Appeals court scolds Jehovah's Witness organization over failure to turn over molestation records

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Appeals court scolds Jehovah's Witness organization over failure to turn over molestation records

Post by de officiis » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:56 pm

Appeals court scolds Jehovah's Witness organization over failure to turn over molestation records
The governing body of the Jehovah’s Witness church received another rebuke this week by a state appeals court for “obstinately” refusing to turn over internal documents about knowledge of church leaders who have been accused of sexually abusing children.

The ruling, filed Thursday by the 4th District Court of Appeal, upholds a $4,000-a-day penalty against Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York for its failure to comply with a court order in a lawsuit filed by a man who claimed to have been molested in the 1990s.

“Here, Watchtower has abused the discovery process. It has zealously advocated its position and lost multiple times. Yet, it cavalierly refuses to acknowledge the consequences of these losses and the validity of the court’s orders requiring it to produce documents…,” the opinion concluded.

The fight for these internal documents has been at the center of not only this lawsuit, but a similar one that accuses the same leader of molestation.

Church elders knew Gonzalo Campos had molested a boy as early as 1982 but did not remove him from interacting with children, according to evidence revealed in the cases.

In one lawsuit filed in San Diego Superior Court in 2012, Jose Lopez said he was 7 when a church elder in a Linda Vista congregation suggested Campos mentor him. Campos molested the boy at Campos’ La Jolla home one day in 1986, according to the lawsuit. . . . .

Campos became more involved with another congregation in La Jolla in 1987. In 1994 or 1995, Campos molested Osbaldo Padron, a church member there, when he was 7 or 8 years old, according to Padron’s 2013 lawsuit.

Campos later confessed to abusing at least eight children between 1982 and 1995. He fled to Mexico around 2010 . . . .

Watchtower has argued that the court’s order to turn over the documents is too burdensome and overbroad, and also that Watchtower does not have access to such records after 2001, but a different governing body does.

In both lawsuits, Watchtower has rebuffed court orders to produce documents about current of former leaders accused of molesting children and has heavily redacted the records it has turned over.

In the Lopez case, a Superior Court judge found Watchtower to be noncompliant and eventually terminated the organization’s right to be heard in the case.

Watchtower appealed, questioning why the judge didn’t use lesser measures to gain compliance, such as monetary sanctions. The appeals court agreed last year, saying the terminating sanction had been too harsh and reversed a $13.5 million judgment that had been imposed. That case is still being litigated.

But when the issue came up in the Padron case, and a different Superior Court judge imposed financial sanctions — $4,000 a day for not producing or searching for the ordered documents — Watchtower complained it was unfair.

“… We are troubled that Watchtower has taken two inconsistent positions before us,” the three-judge appellate panel said in its Thursday ruling.

The court concluded that Watchtower’s conduct was “so egregious” in its handling of the documents that if court orders were not followed, it may be necessary to end the organization’s right to be heard in Padron’s case.
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Re: Appeals court scolds Jehovah's Witness organization over failure to turn over molestation records

Post by heydaralon » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:51 pm

Who is watching the Watchtower?
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Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:59 pm

On the real, the amount of these JW guys coming forward to talk about how weird that group cult is, online through anonymous or semi anonymous means is getting annoying. I could probably find a thread on it right now on 4chan, in fact I will. I still like The Watch Tower though. Grade A+++ publication no lie. I genuinely love reading their magazine.

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Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:03 pm

Can't find any on 4plebs oddly but here's one from a CT forum I used to frequent years ago

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1037571/pg1

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Re: Appeals court scolds Jehovah's Witness organization over failure to turn over molestation records

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:48 pm

I was raised as a JW. Never witnessed or heard anything weird, other than a slightly fundamentalist Christian sect. Still the nicest people I've ever met in my life.

It saddens me to hear about the accusation, but I seriously doubt it's true. Everyone that I ever met in the organization was completely sincere.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:59 pm

We already established you were raised in a cult.

That you confirm your fucked up mind is the product of the JW is just icing on the cake.

I guess I should feel sorry for you.


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My Savior smiles and bids me come,
And I don’t care to stay here long!
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Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:04 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:07 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:We already established you were raised in a cult.

That you confirm your fucked up mind is the product of the JW is just icing on the cake.

I guess I should feel sorry for you.


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And I don’t care to stay here long!
Whatever helps you to insult me, for no reason, I guess. Hope it helps.

Yeah, I joke about it being a cult - and it is, as much as any organized religion - but in the sense of ritual abuse, or bizarre incantations, no. Catholics still hold the title in that area.
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Post by clubgop » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:08 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:I was raised as a JW. Never witnessed or heard anything weird, other than a slightly fundamentalist Christian sect. Still the nicest people I've ever met in my life.

It saddens me to hear about the accusation, but I seriously doubt it's true. Everyone that I ever met in the organization was completely sincere.
I have an Aunt got pregnant at age 15, his family were witness. They are some of the nicest people I know. Yeah they have some weird beliefs but so what? Very distrustful of things outside their religion and family but very nice. A lot like Mormons.

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Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:14 pm


Grace! ’Tis a charming sound,
Harmonious to the ear;
Heav’n with the echo shall resound,
And all the earth shall hear.

Grace first contrived the way
To save rebellious man;
And all the steps that grace display,
Which drew the wondrous plan.

Grace taught my wand’ring feet
To tread the heav’nly road;
And new supplies each hour I meet,
While pressing on to God.

Grace all the work shall crown
Through everlasting days;
It lays in heav’n the topmost stone,
And well deserves our praise.
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.

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