Blowback is Killing Us. Just Come Home.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:25 pm

The so-called Gulf of Tonkin incident was just a 1960s example of how evil the MSM really is. Every fucking time we got pulled into some bullshit war, they were making up fake news to convince Americans it was justified.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:29 pm

The torpedo attack was real.

Le Duan wanted to bait the Americans into the war.

Le Duan wanted a clash to prop himself up with the Americans as his foil.

LBJ also wanted a clash, so he didn't so much take the bait as he jumped at his chance.

The only problem was Search & Destroy. He tried to win decisively on a tight schedule.

If he had stuck to bombing, with some SF and a garrison force in the cities, wouldn't have been such a big deal.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:36 pm

America should always and only leverage seapower.

Strike from the sea.

Don't go any deeper into Indian country, just hang out on the coasts and let them come to you.

Linebacker.

Arc Light.

Commando Sabre.

Phoenix Program
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:52 pm

Ever since Vietnam, everybody employs the same tactic.

Hug the Belt.

But they can only do that if America wanders inland.

Isolationism is not realistic.

George Cannon had the solution.

It's called Containment.

The strategy does not require wandering into Indian Country.

All America has to do, is deny them access to the sea.

Strategic containment, mission accomplished.

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Post by pineapplemike » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:39 pm

Trump vetoes measure to end US involvement in Yemen war
https://apnews.com/1b17cee217b344d8a3a03642139fb606

President Donald Trump on Tuesday vetoed a resolution passed by Congress to end U.S. military assistance in Saudi Arabia’s war in Yemen.

The veto — the second in Trump’s presidency — was expected, and Congress lacks the votes to override it. But passing the never-before-used war powers resolution was viewed as a milestone for lawmakers, who have shown a renewed willingness to assert their war-making authority after letting it atrophy for decades under presidents from both parties.

“This resolution is an unnecessary, dangerous attempt to weaken my constitutional authorities, endangering the lives of American citizens and brave service members, both today and in the future,” Trump wrote in explaining his veto.

Congress has grown uneasy with Trump’s close relationship with Saudi Arabia as he tries to further isolate Iran, a regional rival.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:45 pm

pineapplemike wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:39 pm
Trump vetoes measure to end US involvement in Yemen war
https://apnews.com/1b17cee217b344d8a3a03642139fb606

President Donald Trump on Tuesday vetoed a resolution passed by Congress to end U.S. military assistance in Saudi Arabia’s war in Yemen.

The veto — the second in Trump’s presidency — was expected, and Congress lacks the votes to override it. But passing the never-before-used war powers resolution was viewed as a milestone for lawmakers, who have shown a renewed willingness to assert their war-making authority after letting it atrophy for decades under presidents from both parties.

“This resolution is an unnecessary, dangerous attempt to weaken my constitutional authorities, endangering the lives of American citizens and brave service members, both today and in the future,” Trump wrote in explaining his veto.

Congress has grown uneasy with Trump’s close relationship with Saudi Arabia as he tries to further isolate Iran, a regional rival.
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Nixonian. 1968 forever.
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Post by The Conservative » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:18 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:45 pm
pineapplemike wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:39 pm
Trump vetoes measure to end US involvement in Yemen war
https://apnews.com/1b17cee217b344d8a3a03642139fb606

President Donald Trump on Tuesday vetoed a resolution passed by Congress to end U.S. military assistance in Saudi Arabia’s war in Yemen.

The veto — the second in Trump’s presidency — was expected, and Congress lacks the votes to override it. But passing the never-before-used war powers resolution was viewed as a milestone for lawmakers, who have shown a renewed willingness to assert their war-making authority after letting it atrophy for decades under presidents from both parties.

“This resolution is an unnecessary, dangerous attempt to weaken my constitutional authorities, endangering the lives of American citizens and brave service members, both today and in the future,” Trump wrote in explaining his veto.

Congress has grown uneasy with Trump’s close relationship with Saudi Arabia as he tries to further isolate Iran, a regional rival.
disappointing
Nixonian. 1968 forever.
Depends, what was attached to it? It wasn't a clean bill, I am sure.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:41 am

The Iran War is going to happen eventually.

Stop trying to resist it.

Manifest Destiny is destiny.

North Islamic Nam shall not stand.

Linebacker.

Arc Light.

Commando Sabre.

Straits of Hormuz.
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Post by pineapplemike » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:18 am

U.S. to Send About 500 More Troops to Saudi Arabia
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/18/us/p ... -iran.html

The United States is sending hundreds of troops to Saudi Arabia in what is intended as the latest show of force toward Iran, two Defense Department officials said Wednesday.

The roughly 500 troops are part of a broader tranche of forces sent to the region over the past two months after tensions between Washington and Tehran escalated.

Since May, a spate of attacks have left six oil tankers damaged in the Gulf of Oman, with Washington accusing Tehran of inciting them. Iranian officials have denied that claim. The downing of an American drone in June by an Iranian surface-to-air missile only heightened tensions, prompting President Trump to approve military strikes against Iran before abruptly pulling back.

In recent weeks, Iran has deliberately violated parts of the 2015 international accord that restricted its nuclear program. Last year, Mr. Trump withdrew from the pact, calling it a “horrible deal.”

CNN first reported the plans to deploy more troops on Wednesday night. Defense Department officials confirmed the plans, speaking only on the condition of anonymity because they were not yet public.

Cmdr. Rebecca Rebarich, a Pentagon spokeswoman, said there was “no official announcement” of the deployment, but the American military “continually works to manage our force posture in the region.”

The Trump administration has sent 2,000 troops to the region specifically to deter Iran. They are meant mainly to scrutinize Iranian activities and protect American troops already stationed in the Middle East. Some combat aircraft and surface-to-air missile systems were also deployed. At one point, the Pentagon had considered sending up to 6,000 additional troops.

Mr. Trump said last month that he was not seeking war with Iran but, if forced, the country would face “obliteration like you’ve never seen before.”

The new troop deployment also comes as relations between Saudi Arabia and the United States remain tense. In May, Mr. Trump used emergency authorization to bypass Congress to sell about $8 billion in weapons to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. Both countries have troops deployed in Yemen, where they are battling Houthi rebels in a Saudi-led war.

On Wednesday, the House moved to block the arms deal, though that measure is likely to be vetoed.

Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have denounced the four-year conflict in Yemen. Saudi Arabia has killed hundreds of civilians in errant airstrikes, many with American-made munitions. Thousands of people have died in the fighting, and more than a million have been displaced.

Saudi Arabia’s hand in the killing of the Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi has also been a sticking point. But last month, during an interview with NBC’s “Meet the Press,” the president shrugged off his death, calling the Middle East a “vicious, hostile place.”

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:22 am

If it wasn't for default amnesty for tens of millions of colonizers, this might have sent me over the edge of not being able to handle any more winning.