Current US Military

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Re: Current US Military

Post by Fife » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:39 am

The magic of muh vote feels almost as hype as winning the slave lottery.

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Re: Current US Military

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:53 am

"slave lottery"

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Re: Current US Military

Post by Fife » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:24 am

I don't write em I just read em.

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

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Re: Current US Military

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:04 am

"I want the benefits of civilization with none of the duties and obligations"

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Re: Current US Military

Post by Fife » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:17 am

The illusion of suffrage plus conscription are some really hot "benefits of civilization."


Which way is going to be, Bolton boi? Register for conscription and universal suffrage or voluntary service and limited suffrage?



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Re: Current US Military

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:19 am

Not sure why you'd want to bring up Bolton. He is pretty much the epitome of "I want the benefits without the obligations and duties".

People like that should have zero role in government, or any kind of voting.

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Re: Current US Military

Post by Fife » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:24 am

I'm not even sure what we are bitching at each other about.

If it weren't for shitasses like Bolton, discussing the whole concept of a draft in America (of all places in the world) would be a silly academic exercise. I suppose we agree on that?

It's a bit asymmetrical for me, as I prefer no conscription, no slavery, no standing army, and I'd do away with voting above a VERY local level altogether.
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Re: Current US Military

Post by C-Mag » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:24 am

Conscription = folks pay attention to war policy = Draft Riots = Change in War Policy

Re-instate the Draft NOW !
PLATA O PLOMO


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Re: Current US Military

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:26 am

They do not even fucking get it. Fife sees the freeloading problem when it is money, because he has to sacrifice for that. The freeloading of security, though, seems to totally escape him.

What human culture is worth preserving where most of the grown ass men would bitch and moan when called upon to serve and defend it?

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Re: Current US Military

Post by Fife » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:27 am

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:24 am
Conscription = folks pay attention to war policy = Draft Riots = Change in War Policy

Re-instate the Draft NOW !
I can go for that, if I'm in charge of the Draft Board. No fucking lotteries.

Bolton, Pompeo, and their children if they have any, are on the first plane to Yemen. Put em in a fucking Saudi uniform and give a rifle and let them get to work.

I'm all for skin in the game.