Don't Fall for Tax Reform

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Don't Fall for Tax Reform

Post by Fife » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:58 pm

Watch out for all the times you'll hear "comprehensive" in regard to the upcoming tax reform discussion. That's a sure-fire signal that nothing real is going to happen.

Without spending reform, tax reform is just a damn ruse; run the same on us by Trump as every other swamp creature before.

Just be skeptical; and think of the unseen along with the seen.

Don't Fall for Tax Reform
It's a promise every presidential candidate makes, including Trump. But we ought to be suspicious of grandiose talk about Congress reforming anything. Tax reform proposals always evade and obscure the real issue, which is the total cost-- financial, compliance, and human-- taxes impose on society. The fundamental questions about war and entitlements and state power go unasked. We never consider whether Congress really needs to spend more than $4 trillion in 2018, or how it managed to double federal spending in only 15 years.

Since those questions are never seriously raised, every proposal necessarily pits various interest groups against each other in a deadly game to make sure the other guy pays. After all, that $4 trillion has to come from somewhere. Hence we read articles about "winners and losers" in the Wall Street Journal, hapless tax serfs in a zero-sum world.

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The last true "reform," in the sense it significantly altered the tax code, passed in 1986. In today's political climate there is little appetite for debating the tax treatment of labor vs. capital, earned income vs. unearned income, retail sales vs. flat topline income, renting vs. owning, etc. And we should not forget that taxes are a form of carrot and stick, a way for Congress to reward and punish various constituencies. It makes little sense for them to give up this power, just as it make little sense for lobbyists to lobby themselves out of a job.

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Re: Don't Fall for Tax Reform

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:00 pm

Comprehensive really is a red flag term in the government. It immediately brings to mind Comprehensive Immigration Reform. This is an important issue that bears watching because lowering the corporate tax rate is one of Trump's main campaign promises. It's something I would personally like to see accomplished as well. I don't want to see any immigration platforms compromised to tax reform though. Immigration platforms are permanent while any deal made regarding tax reform will easily be scrapped in as little as a few years down the line. Not worf it.

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Re: Don't Fall for Tax Reform

Post by C-Mag » Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:09 pm

Comprehensive can be included with other great buzz words like, Collaborative, Inclusive, Sustainable, Affordable, Revitalize, Partnership............. there are more
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Re: Don't Fall for Tax Reform

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:12 pm

Patriot, god there are so many. I would pay real money to someone that encyclopedicly collated all the double speak in the government.

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Re: Don't Fall for Tax Reform

Post by jediuser598 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:36 pm

C-Mag wrote:Comprehensive can be included with other great buzz words like, Collaborative, Inclusive, Sustainable, Affordable, Revitalize, Partnership............. there are more
Revenue neutral, lol everything is revenue neutral these days.
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Re: Don't Fall for Tax Reform

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:38 pm

Convention time.

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Re: Don't Fall for Tax Reform

Post by Montegriffo » Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:25 am

C-Mag wrote:Sustainable
A word to live your life by (or at least try)
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: Don't Fall for Tax Reform

Post by Alexander PhiAlipson » Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:55 am

Our comprehensive reform shall be as completely protean as an amoeba's adaptable and sustainable infra-structure.
Yeah, death to buzzwords--refer us to your website or tell us to Google it instead. The common bullshittery might not be so bad if our wonderful
media types didn't spit back the same-sounding, all-inclusive, wide-sweeping nonsense at us--instead of asking for specifics, they ask, isn't that racist?.
When it comes to tax cuts, however sillily misnamed, I can actually see them on my returns, and hope to see more.
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Re: Don't Fall for Tax Reform

Post by clubgop » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:56 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
C-Mag wrote:Sustainable
A word to live your life by (or at least try)
Trying to raise a family in a van is unstainable, douchebag.

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Re: Don't Fall for Tax Reform

Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:19 pm

:lol:
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