American rural vs urban demographics and economy

[brewster]

This one's for StA so he has a place to rant his theories of the demise of the evil cities instead of hijacking my Jeffersonian thread.
Fascinating bunch of data here. Https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-r ... 6-210.html But StA ain't going to like it because he'll want to move the "urban" goalposts to his definition of "not shitty big city" rather than the Census Bureau's.



Check this one out, more urban men work than rural men, so much for the degenerate layabout myth.


And here the rural are more likely to be single, uneducated, unemployed and in poverty.

[Ph64]

How many of the urban are immigrants? Illegal immigrants?
("Technically" non-voting population?)

[brewster]

How many of the urban are immigrants? Illegal immigrants?
("Technically" non-voting population?)

In what context does it matter to you?

[TheReal_ND]

Ok. Now remove the rural black population. Just to please me.

[PartyOf5]

This is the government for you:
Definition of Rural: The Census Bureau defines rural as any population, housing, or territory NOT in an urban area.

https://storymaps.geo.census.gov/arcgis ... cb65ad942a
"To account for the increase in suburbanization, the 1950 Census defined urban by identifying densely settled urbanized areas with populations of 50,000 or more. Incorporated places and census designated places with populations of at least 2,500 and less than 50,000 located outside of urbanized areas were also included as urban. This definition was used until 2000.

Urban clusters were first introduced in 2000 to replace urban places outside of urbanized areas.

The Census Bureau delineated 3,573 urban areas after the 2010 Census for the United States:
486 Urbanized Areas
3,087 Urban Clusters"

I took a look at my home state. A lot of smaller cities surrounded by rural areas are classified as urban. I'm sure those places helped to offset the "fully urban" areas like Detroit, Chicago, and other crapholes.

[DBTrek]

. . .And here the rural are more likely to be single, uneducated, unemployed and in poverty.

Far be it from me to tell a man how to read his own data . . .

[brewster]

This is the government for you:
Definition of Rural: The Census Bureau defines rural as any population, housing, or territory NOT in an urban area.

No it's stupider than that, it's an "area" of less than 2500 people. How big is an "area they didn't say.

Today, "urban areas" consist of two types of geographies:

"Urbanized Areas" have a population of 50,000 or more.
"Urban Clusters" have a population of at least 2,500 and less than 50,000.

There is no government definition that I've found for what StA want to divide us by. The medium sized cities, suburbs and exurbs he extols are all urban to the gov't, and would all be considered cities by Jefferson.

There's few thing I hate more than fucking Inigo Montoya meme. If you got a point make it.

[PartyOf5]

Yeah, he posted 2 sets of numbers that contradict each other.

[brewster]

Yeah, he posted 2 sets of numbers that contradict each other.

perhaps you can elaborate, it's all from the census bureau.

[brewster]

LOL. You are really fixated on this farm straw man.

The government defines anything but <2500 as urban and you cherry pick your definition of city to be any place you don't like. You rail against "depraved cities", but there are clearly cities you favor, so come up with a better term. And some data to back up your contention that people are leaving cities. They're not even leaving the cities you hate.