Meanwhile in Ukraine

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by The Conservative » Mon May 22, 2023 7:27 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 7:02 am
The Conservative wrote:
Sun May 21, 2023 9:29 pm
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Sun May 21, 2023 1:38 pm
I’m guessing this ends in a new Berlin Wall situation. Neocons demand their Cold War 2.
You mean the "Deep State" wants to keep their status quo... I still say the Soviet Union never really fell, it just adapted. It is the same with the "Deep State" in the US, it may be pushed back, but the average person can't beat it, and we truly will never know how deep it really goes. Well, we probably do, but it won't be accepted because too many people will realize the people who they believe in are genuinely corrupt.
The Soviet Union? It’s gone. Scattered to the wind.

Russia is just a gangster state now. Nobody’s confiscating from the Kulaks, they’re just stealing shit. Very similar to the US deep state.
Yet a former KGB agent is “President”.

You can say what you want, but you are fooling yourself if you think the Soviet Union is dead.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon May 22, 2023 7:51 am

The Conservative wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 7:27 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 7:02 am
The Conservative wrote:
Sun May 21, 2023 9:29 pm


You mean the "Deep State" wants to keep their status quo... I still say the Soviet Union never really fell, it just adapted. It is the same with the "Deep State" in the US, it may be pushed back, but the average person can't beat it, and we truly will never know how deep it really goes. Well, we probably do, but it won't be accepted because too many people will realize the people who they believe in are genuinely corrupt.
The Soviet Union? It’s gone. Scattered to the wind.

Russia is just a gangster state now. Nobody’s confiscating from the Kulaks, they’re just stealing shit. Very similar to the US deep state.
Yet a former KGB agent is “President”.

You can say what you want, but you are fooling yourself if you think the Soviet Union is dead.
That’s like saying Germany is the Nazi State because Merkel’s dad was in the SS (not a true thing).

The form of government and economy are gone to history. There is no Soviet Union, and no Soviet ruling the country. Just a bunch of gangsters playing around in the rubble, and an old spy in charge.

There’s a big fucking country where the USSR used to be, and it still controls a nuclear stockpile. That’s about the only similarity.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Mon May 22, 2023 7:52 am

George Bush & Gerald Ford were both heads of the CIA. Presidential candidate Mike Pompeo was too.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Mon May 22, 2023 9:40 am

Martin Hash wrote:
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George Bush & Gerald Ford were both heads of the CIA. Presidential candidate Mike Pompeo was too.
We are the pot calling the kettle black.

Tell me the dramatic differences between the Stasi and the US Intel community ?
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Mon May 22, 2023 9:45 am

The Ukrainiots are not coping well with the loss of Bakhmut. They range from denial saying Ukraine still fighting in the city, to saying it's all a brilliant Ukro trap, to saying it was a draw.

They will need to change the narrative, and will do or create something to do that
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by The Conservative » Mon May 22, 2023 10:27 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 7:51 am
The Conservative wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 7:27 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 7:02 am


The Soviet Union? It’s gone. Scattered to the wind.

Russia is just a gangster state now. Nobody’s confiscating from the Kulaks, they’re just stealing shit. Very similar to the US deep state.
Yet a former KGB agent is “President”.

You can say what you want, but you are fooling yourself if you think the Soviet Union is dead.
That’s like saying Germany is the Nazi State because Merkel’s dad was in the SS (not a true thing).

The form of government and economy are gone to history. There is no Soviet Union, and no Soviet ruling the country. Just a bunch of gangsters playing around in the rubble, and an old spy in charge.

There’s a big fucking country where the USSR used to be, and it still controls a nuclear stockpile. That’s about the only similarity.
Keep believing that.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon May 22, 2023 10:30 am

The Conservative wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 10:27 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 7:51 am
The Conservative wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 7:27 am


Yet a former KGB agent is “President”.

You can say what you want, but you are fooling yourself if you think the Soviet Union is dead.
That’s like saying Germany is the Nazi State because Merkel’s dad was in the SS (not a true thing).

The form of government and economy are gone to history. There is no Soviet Union, and no Soviet ruling the country. Just a bunch of gangsters playing around in the rubble, and an old spy in charge.

There’s a big fucking country where the USSR used to be, and it still controls a nuclear stockpile. That’s about the only similarity.
Keep believing that.
As opposed to believing what? That Russia actually runs as a Soviet republic in secret?
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by The Conservative » Mon May 22, 2023 10:32 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 10:30 am
The Conservative wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 10:27 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 7:51 am


That’s like saying Germany is the Nazi State because Merkel’s dad was in the SS (not a true thing).

The form of government and economy are gone to history. There is no Soviet Union, and no Soviet ruling the country. Just a bunch of gangsters playing around in the rubble, and an old spy in charge.

There’s a big fucking country where the USSR used to be, and it still controls a nuclear stockpile. That’s about the only similarity.
Keep believing that.
As opposed to believing what? That Russia actually runs as a Soviet republic in secret?
They are becoming what they were before. So you tell me.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon May 22, 2023 11:04 am

The Conservative wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 10:32 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 10:30 am
The Conservative wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 10:27 am


Keep believing that.
As opposed to believing what? That Russia actually runs as a Soviet republic in secret?
They are becoming what they were before. So you tell me.
I have no idea wtf you’re talking about.

There are no Soviet councils or workers owning means of production.

You mean an adversary to the US? Sure. Same as China. That has nothing to do with being the USSR.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Mon May 22, 2023 11:33 am

Russia has less of a chance of going Marxist than the U.S. does.
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