Meanwhile in Ukraine

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Haumana » Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:13 am

C-Mag wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:26 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:45 pm

Tom Luongo sees it as an internal battle between diehard special interest hawks and beaurocrats.

https://tomluongo.me/2023/02/03/podcast ... nt-cheese/
And I thinks that's SOP in Washington DC. The Biden Admin appears ready to get out, to me. I think I posted the Blinken offer here, which they ran through Egypt for cover. Russia rejected it. Condi calls it pretty straight, time is running out for Ukraine, and if we are going to keep killing Russians, we are likely going to have to do it ourselves.

It appears the full Ukraine military + NATO support, logistics and access to Intel is a pretty fair match. But if you run out of equipment and troops, you lose. No one asks why a Ukraine that started the war with 2000 tanks and captured many more, why do they need more tanks. The answer is obvious, they've been destroyed.
Smitty says what?

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:20 am

Haumana wrote:
Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:13 am
C-Mag wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:26 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:45 pm

Tom Luongo sees it as an internal battle between diehard special interest hawks and beaurocrats.

https://tomluongo.me/2023/02/03/podcast ... nt-cheese/
And I thinks that's SOP in Washington DC. The Biden Admin appears ready to get out, to me. I think I posted the Blinken offer here, which they ran through Egypt for cover. Russia rejected it. Condi calls it pretty straight, time is running out for Ukraine, and if we are going to keep killing Russians, we are likely going to have to do it ourselves.

It appears the full Ukraine military + NATO support, logistics and access to Intel is a pretty fair match. But if you run out of equipment and troops, you lose. No one asks why a Ukraine that started the war with 2000 tanks and captured many more, why do they need more tanks. The answer is obvious, they've been destroyed.
Smitty says what?
Indeed. I don’t wanna get nuked without knowing the model number on the missile :lol:

What a time for him to disappear. Could use some inside baseball right now.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:20 pm

War Crimes by Ukraine are now suddenly being published, including by the NYTimes.

We might be getting ready to ditch the Ukraine effort
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/it ... save-face/
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:28 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:20 pm
War Crimes by Ukraine are now suddenly being published, including by the NYTimes.

We might be getting ready to ditch the Ukraine effort
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/it ... save-face/
Bout fucking time. But I still believe china and Russia are a package deal. They’re allies in every way.

In fact, they could even pull India to their side, despite the goofy hand to hand thing in the mountains.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:28 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:28 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:20 pm
War Crimes by Ukraine are now suddenly being published, including by the NYTimes.

We might be getting ready to ditch the Ukraine effort
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/it ... save-face/
Bout fucking time. But I still believe china and Russia are a package deal. They’re allies in every way.

In fact, they could even pull India to their side, despite the goofy hand to hand thing in the mountains.
I don't think we can bank on anything yet.
I'm seeing competing factions in the MIC, one wants to continue to double down on Ukraine, the other wants to get out quickly.

I think we are going to see a lot of mixed messages over the next several weeks or months.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:32 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:28 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:28 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:20 pm
War Crimes by Ukraine are now suddenly being published, including by the NYTimes.

We might be getting ready to ditch the Ukraine effort
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/it ... save-face/
Bout fucking time. But I still believe china and Russia are a package deal. They’re allies in every way.

In fact, they could even pull India to their side, despite the goofy hand to hand thing in the mountains.
I don't think we can bank on anything yet.
I'm seeing competing factions in the MIC, one wants to continue to double down on Ukraine, the other wants to get out quickly.

I think we are going to see a lot of mixed messages over the next several weeks or months.
They want that sweet war funding without blowing up the world. And they’re dancing the knife edge every day for it
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:31 am

Hows that NATO Article V work when we blow up a pipeline that's 49% European owned ?
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:38 am

C-Mag wrote:
Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:31 am
Hows that NATO Article V work when we blow up a pipeline that's 49% European owned ?
Act of war certainly. But vassal states are gonna vassal.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:36 am

Ukraine is just about to fall but I haven't seen the MSM preparing the NPCs. Are they just going to ignore it?
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:18 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:36 am
Ukraine is just about to fall but I haven't seen the MSM preparing the NPCs. Are they just going to ignore it?
The entire west is telling their citizens to leave Russia this week. If I had to guess, they’re prepping for a full war.
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