Rigged: The Injustice of Corporate Welfare

[Fife]

Sports Stadiums are a great example of Corporate Welfare.

Another good case study is the government in Vegas giving its children an unlubricated ass-thumping for benefit of the Gayders and the rest of the NFL.

Raiders’ move to Las Vegas is corporate welfare at its finest

[brewster]

It's pretty common to rush to blame the mean old greedy sports team owner, as if he was stealing from the taxpayers with a gun.

Nay, nay. It takes the fatass writing the check out of the working stiff's ass to make it work. He's the one with all the guns. Legalllll guns.

Without a doubt it takes 2 to tango, but it's not too hard to push the buttons of politicians worried about the next election. This is the same methodology that public worker unions use. It's essentially blackmail. The only defense is truly not giving a shit about re-election because the mayor that loses the team is in deep trouble.

[Fife]

It's pretty common to rush to blame the mean old greedy sports team owner, as if he was stealing from the taxpayers with a gun.

Nay, nay. It takes the fatass writing the check out of the working stiff's ass to make it work. He's the one with all the guns. Legalllll guns.

Without a doubt it takes 2 to tango, but it's not too hard to push the buttons of politicians worried about the next election. This is the same methodology that public worker unions use. It's essentially blackmail. The only defense is truly not giving a shit about re-election because the mayor that loses the team is in deep trouble.

So that's an excuse?

If that's the case, what's the remedy?

[brewster]

It's pretty common to rush to blame the mean old greedy sports team owner, as if he was stealing from the taxpayers with a gun.

Nay, nay. It takes the fatass writing the check out of the working stiff's ass to make it work. He's the one with all the guns. Legalllll guns.

Without a doubt it takes 2 to tango, but it's not too hard to push the buttons of politicians worried about the next election. This is the same methodology that public worker unions use. It's essentially blackmail. The only defense is truly not giving a shit about re-election because the mayor that loses the team is in deep trouble.

So that's an excuse?

If that's the case, what's the remedy?

No excuse, but you can't let the bank robbers off the hook because the bank had bad security and they couldn't resist temptation. Not sure of a solution, maybe some kind of firewall preventing the incentive game, where they just can't throw money at private entities. Had the redevelopment zone laws here had some kind of sunset trigger point like 60% of the zone developed, the situation would be self resolving.

[Fife]

The idea of a "sunset" clause to a politician is like the idea of "sunlight" to a vampire.

[jbird4049]

Also, change the incentive structure of welfare. Currently, it's dangerous for a welfare recipient to work part-time since they lose more than they can potentially gain. Furthermore, because the wages for unskilled labor are falling, and the number of jobs for such people does not match or exceed the numbers of unskilled laborers, there is no guarantee they can keep the job. These jobs are often temporary as well.

Let them work without losing the benefit for a while. But give them the vocational training they need to get a better job.

Maybe kick out the millions of illegal immigrants who are glutting the low-skilled labor market as well. You think that might be a factor here?

I mean.. fuck.. from my perspective, all of you are fucking wrong on this for one reason or another.

The qualifications for benefits are often cliff-like, maybe better said guillotine like. If you are on disability, and manage to earn more than around $1100 just once in a month, you are automatically disqualified. Of course, since $15 is about the de facto minimum in California. Which some can earn by just sitting in a chair with some luck. So you can lose it all by working one extra hour. And some disabilities can get better, or worse, like mental illness, or other illnesses.

It's nutz. Why is disability is not treated on a sliding scale, especially a permanent scale when that just about guarantees being stuck in it? Like oh, you managed to get a little better with that schizophrenia, well don't work too much or we'll dump your ass.

And like StA says, daycare, and I would add higher education, or training, that one could actually afford, or even free would be great. But that's welfare so it's verboten.

The thing is, many of these would NOT fail without help, they just get it because, why the fuck not if they can? As I said upthread, the cases I personally know best are developer deals. My area was once "blighted" and declared a redevelopment zone 30 years ago, but now it is white hot. Developers are no longer taking a risk building here, and no longer need incentives. Yet they've grown so accustomed to having their snouts in the trough, and the politicians as well, that the tax abatements and other goodies keep coming.

So why are those how depend on welfare to live are treated with the same contempt as the already rich who depend on welfare to become richer? Like our current President?

The idea of a "sunset" clause to a politician is like the idea of "sunlight" to a vampire.

Term limits create another set of problems; it gives all the power to the bureaucracy, and prevents politicians developing the expertise needed to be good at their job. By the time a state rep. gets to know how to do his job well, he has to leave. Also, it prevents the creation of an institutional memory, which is also important. However, bureaucrats are not term limited, which means they can burrow in and spend the time needed to learn how to manipulate the system to his liken better than the elected officials.

[Speaker to Animals]

Disability is treated that way because there are not enough jobs for everybody. The government is trying to subsidize its unsustainable and suicidal immigration policy by shuffling people to stealth welfare.

The corporations lobby for this immigration because they want to glut the labor pool as much as possible. I am convinced the democratic party, and probably most of the cucks in the republican party, support mass immigration because they want to demographically annihilate the American people, replacing us with cultures and races (they hope) are more amenable to statism and authoritarian control.

[jbird4049]

Disability is treated that way because there are not enough jobs for everybody. The government is trying to subsidize its unsustainable and suicidal immigration policy by shuffling people to stealth welfare.

The corporations lobby for this immigration because they want to glut the labor pool as much as possible. I am convinced the democratic party, and probably most of the cucks in the republican party, support mass immigration because they want to demographically annihilate the American people, replacing us with cultures and races (they hope) are more amenable to statism and authoritarian control.

Cultural annihilation might be too hard, but large scale immigration certainly does financially benefit the upper 20%, and further enriches the upper 1%.

[Speaker to Animals]

Disability is treated that way because there are not enough jobs for everybody. The government is trying to subsidize its unsustainable and suicidal immigration policy by shuffling people to stealth welfare.

The corporations lobby for this immigration because they want to glut the labor pool as much as possible. I am convinced the democratic party, and probably most of the cucks in the republican party, support mass immigration because they want to demographically annihilate the American people, replacing us with cultures and races (they hope) are more amenable to statism and authoritarian control.

Cultural annihilation might be too hard, but large scale immigration certainly does financially benefit the upper 20%, and further enriches the upper 1%.

It's easy peasy. You just make the people of a nation a minority in their own country by flooding it with foreigners from a totally different civilization.

[clubgop]

Sports Stadiums are a great example of Corporate Welfare.

Another good case study is the government in Vegas giving its children an unlubricated ass-thumping for benefit of the Gayders and the rest of the NFL.

Raiders’ move to Las Vegas is corporate welfare at its finest

Yes it is corporate welfare but it is also an investment. Every transaction in that place or about that place you get a piece of be it in taxes or as a landlord. Indoor arenas are licenses to print money.