Rigged: The Injustice of Corporate Welfare

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Rigged: The Injustice of Corporate Welfare

Post by Fife » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:19 pm

I can only imagine what it must be like in the truly Marxist jurisdictions.


Here's a video from my hometown city.




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Re: Rigged: The Injustice of Corporate Welfare

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Re: Rigged: The Injustice of Corporate Welfare

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:31 pm

Businesses shouldn't be paying income taxes, period.

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Post by Zlaxer » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:35 pm

Fife wrote:I can only imagine what it must be like in the truly Marxist jurisdictions.


Here's a video from my hometown city.




Suck it prole....You do what your told and like it....or else.... :twisted:









You boyz don't get it - there is not going back - this is how things are now.....mmmmmkkkkk? :D

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Post by brewster » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:16 pm

I watched 5 minutes. Very familiar with the story, though it plays out here in the NYC area more for developers and financial firms than retail. I don't get your disdain for this. Why are you guys for corporate welfare, companies bleeding taxpayer money? It's just another part of BIG GOVERNMENT, isn't it? This isn't even about corporate income tax, the incentives are usually property tax abatements, free property and loan guarantees. States and Localities can't forgive corporate income.

Here in NJ "pay to play" is a time honored tradition. Developers donate to politicians and get tax abatements and other goodies. One of the reasons Christie and Samson had it in for Hoboken Mayor Zimmer was that she wouldn't roll over, take the payola, and and rezone an industrial area for Samson's firm in a way that would make them many millions. They just couldn't comprehend a NJ elected official that wasn't corrupt, it was unprecedented!
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Re: Rigged: The Injustice of Corporate Welfare

Post by TheReal_ND » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:19 pm

Why are you guys for corporate welfare,
Had to stop you right there mate. That's a Ron Paul term. Nobody likes it. It's often tip toed around but we are in a deep state of socialism, ie, per usual the people at the top are getting richer.

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Post by Zlaxer » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:21 pm

brewster wrote:I watched 5 minutes. Very familiar with the story, though it plays out here in the NYC area more for developers and financial firms than retail. I don't get your disdain for this. Why are you guys for corporate welfare, companies bleeding taxpayer money? It's just another part of BIG GOVERNMENT, isn't it? This isn't even about corporate income tax, the incentives are usually property tax abatements, free property and loan guarantees. States and Localities can't forgive corporate income.

Here in NJ "pay to play" is a time honored tradition. Developers donate to politicians and get tax abatements and other goodies. One of the reasons Christie and Samson had it in for Hoboken Mayor Zimmer was that she wouldn't roll over, take the payola, and and rezone an industrial area for Samson's firm in a way that would make them many millions. They just couldn't comprehend a NJ elected official that wasn't corrupt, it was unprecedented!

Fife's just been hanging out with Harry too much.....the system isn't going to revert....

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Re: Rigged: The Injustice of Corporate Welfare

Post by jbird4049 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:18 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Why are you guys for corporate welfare,
Had to stop you right there mate. That's a Ron Paul term. Nobody likes it. It's often tip toed around but we are in a deep state of socialism, ie, per usual the people at the top are getting richer.
Sorry Nuke Dog, it is what it is. Just because someone unliked is using a term doesn't make that term bad. It's corporate welfare. It's also welfare for the wealthy, the connected, or the corrupt where all the costs are public, and all the rewards are individualized.

Of course, wellfare for the needed is enabling moochers, while the fatcats are all so virtuous as well as rightfully needy.
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Re: Rigged: The Injustice of Corporate Welfare

Post by clubgop » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:25 pm

Why are you guys for corporate welfare, companies bleeding taxpayer money? It's just another part of BIG GOVERNMENT, isn't it?
What the fuck are you on about? Yes it is part of big government and yes we hate it. Big Government needs big business just as much as big business needs big government.

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Re: Rigged: The Injustice of Corporate Welfare

Post by clubgop » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:28 pm

jbird4049 wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:
Why are you guys for corporate welfare,
Had to stop you right there mate. That's a Ron Paul term. Nobody likes it. It's often tip toed around but we are in a deep state of socialism, ie, per usual the people at the top are getting richer.
Sorry Nuke Dog, it is what it is. Just because someone unliked is using a term doesn't make that term bad. It's corporate welfare. It's also welfare for the wealthy, the connected, or the corrupt where all the costs are public, and all the rewards are individualized.

Of course, wellfare for the needed is enabling moochers, while the fatcats are all so virtuous as well as rightfully needy.
Well that term is nice and all but ND is right in the main. This is socialism in micro. This is how the proletariat sausage gets made.