Martin Hash wrote:Dude, we don't debate other people's opinions, we debate our own. Clear this up by stating what YOU think would be a solution for inner-city Black failure?
I think the lower average IQ definitely leads more of them to make poor decisions, including criminality, but that can be mitigated through effective socialization.
I think the tribalism is the real problem, and we make it worse through democratic party policies that essentially create sexual selection for the very worst behaviors. They will never develop as a group under a system of welfare, child support, and single-mothers banging the biggest thugs that will have sex with them.
I think what Tommy Sotomayor said is a huge part of the problem, but not the cause of it. It's merely what holds them back.
Like most things, I think our race's pathological altruism blinds us to the harm we inflict on other groups of people while compelling us to make things worse.
Looking back at the example of how the Germanic people of Northern Europe evolved these behaviors that led to a high-trust civilization built upon what would become our middle class, I think it is apparent that the last thing that anybody needs are public policies that encourage women to have children with unfit men and depend upon the dole to raise them. What happens is that these women outbreed women with genetics that are better adapted towards a high-trust society, and those women breed based upon their most base impulses (it's usually just an unintended pregnancy with some thug). This is not a problem unique to any race in America. It will eventually ruin whites as well.
I think what led to our current civilization began with an aristocracy that was so brutal that only the smartest members could survive who could engage in the most sophisticated future-planning. Because they were stuck in the secular cycle of population booms until they hit the Malthusian trap, followed by a rapid decline and social turmoil, members of the aristocracy would constantly fall out of the higher social order into what would become the middle class in our own time. The alleles that predisposed them to future-planning and putting more resources towards the welfare of their children than themselves spread throughout that middling class every time internecine conflict pushed many of them down in status and forced them to marry lower than they otherwise would.
Eventually that genetic predisposition began to dominate and spread across Northern Europe, beginning chiefly in England and Netherlands. This led to our escaping the Malthusian trap since families with this predisposition were able to save more for the future, and prepare their offspring to deal with tough times, as well as improve their ability to compete. Once the Malthusian trap was escaped in the late middle ages, we began to develop new ideas about government, philosophy, and science.
Consider the fact that the knowledge of how we built the greatest civilization in history is hardly a secret. Africa has more resources than Europe. They know on paper what they have to do to copy our success, but they cannot do it even though many of their nations have desperately tried to do so. Just knowing about science and political philosophy doesn't somehow make it possible to do these things. Most people need to break out of the earlier tribal behaviors.
But that's an evolutionary step, and it goes both ways. We are setting ourselves up to evolve to a more tribal state with these marxist social policies too.
For people of African descent to evolve this stuff, we have to stop fucking with them. Look at what we do in Africa, for example. We flood their markets with free grains and other supplies so that they don't have to learn to plan for shortages. They never actually escaped the Malthusian trap. We just pull them out of it along with us, which is fine, but you can't then expect them to behave like people who did that on their own.
Africans also are a very tribal people. Tribal people don't think in the same terms as people who evolved into complex societies. Ideas like justice for all don't matter as much. They seek what is best for their tribe over the other tribes. This propensity manifests in America in black communities in the form of gangs. It still manifests in Appalachia to some extent between family clans.
If you want a group of people to transition from a tribal behavior to more civilized behavior, you need for sexual selection to favor the people who exhibit those traits. Likewise, if you want more tribal behavior, you need sexual selection to favor more tribal people. Right now, our government imposes social policies that GREATLY favor reproduction by people who cannot plan for their future and are more thuggish by nature. It's not just blacks but whites too. The difference is that they have most blacks locked down on vote plantations where these policies can do the most harm, and blacks were already coming from a tribal background in the not-so-distant past.
So given that basis, I think the solution to these problems will take probably many generations. It involves abolishing things like financial incentives to become a single parent. It involves requiring people to get jobs and to think about the consequences of their sexual behavior. If you have sex with people who are irresponsible and demonstrate maladaptation to civilized society, then you should not then be rewarded with child support and all kinds of public assistance. I have no problem with helping the kids. I have no problem with subsidized day care and schooling. Other than that, the consequences of your sexual decisions should fall on you. No child support. No alimony. No welfare. No public housing. Nothing but day care and maybe job training and placement.
