Explosion in St. Petersburg Metro

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Re: Explosion in St. Petersburg Metro

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:19 am

Note how they are not even bothering to declare this could be anything and we should wait.

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Re: Explosion in St. Petersburg Metro

Post by TheReal_ND » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:22 am

Good idea. It's Russia anyway it would be stupid to declare something for them.

Supposedly a second bomb was disabled nearby.

LIVE: Putin and Lukashenko make statement in St Petersburg - ORIGINAL
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Re: Explosion in St. Petersburg Metro

Post by ssu » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:30 am

BjornP wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
BjornP wrote:Suicide bomb related to IS or remote detonated/timed bomb from one of the seperatist groups in the Russian Federation. Or even a combo: Chechen seperatist terrorists declaring allegience to IS.
It was obviously the Russians.
Wouldn't be the first time:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... esponsible
Terrorist attacks happen in Russia from time to time. What's interesting is that now Chechens are pacified, the Putin government isn't so overtly bellicose, but basically the Caucasus is still a low intensity conflict zone. When you look at pictures coming out of for example Dagestan, you might confuse easily the fighting to Syria (with Hinds launching rocket attacks supporting ground troops).

Apartment buildings in the middle of nowhere aren't the same as the St. Petersburgh transit system, btw.

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Re: Explosion in St. Petersburg Metro

Post by C-Mag » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:37 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:The Amish again?
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Re: Explosion in St. Petersburg Metro

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Re: Explosion in St. Petersburg Metro

Post by ssu » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:39 am

TheReal_ND wrote:
LIVE: Putin and Lukashenko make statement in St Petersburg - ORIGINAL
Naturally the leaders will make a statement about the attacks, but what is interesting if they say something else.

The Russia-Belarus relationship is interesting. For Putin to Belarus to closer ties would be great, but the relationship isn't so simple. Belarus and it's leader have played their own game, even if the two countries are close.

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Re: Explosion in St. Petersburg Metro

Post by C-Mag » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:43 am

This could have been what Trump was up to all the time with Russia. Trump pulled this off to strengthen Putin's hand. That Trump is so EVIL.
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Re: Explosion in St. Petersburg Metro

Post by TheReal_ND » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:50 am

ssu wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:
LIVE: Putin and Lukashenko make statement in St Petersburg - ORIGINAL
Naturally the leaders will make a statement about the attacks, but what is interesting if they say something else.

The Russia-Belarus relationship is interesting. For Putin to Belarus to closer ties would be great, but the relationship isn't so simple. Belarus and it's leader have played their own game, even if the two countries are close.
Eh. Don't know about Belarus much but pic related was tweeted recently. If you have to, google kekistan.

This was probably Chechens and if it is, their isn't much he can say about radical Islam. He will just have to step up counter intelligence.

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Re: Explosion in St. Petersburg Metro

Post by ssu » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:35 pm

Russian doctrine is this:

Something bad might happen in the future and Russia might have a conflict with it's neighbours. If so, be ready for it now and don't start to plan and do something about it only then, because then it's too late to start doing something. So do it now, make the preparations. The effort might be valuable in the distant future, decades from now. With this you can pack a bigger punch than what your economic and military power would give you.

This is the thing why Americans may find it puzzling that a) we have good relations with Russia and b) Russia has those Spetnaz cells here ready to kill important persons like fighter pilots and commanders etc. Both exist on the same time. Because if you talk about point b), it sounds like they seem to saying that the Russians are coming. Not so. They just prepare for the worst. In the mean time, the relations can be just fine.

Hence Russia can do many things that are threating, but that isn't going to lead to unavoidably to conflict. But the information war is fought even in peacetime.

And I'm starting to think that this isn't only a thing which Putin uses to stay in power, there's something very Russian in the utter distrust at the West. Things wouldn't change, even if the leadership in the Kremlin would change.

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Re: Explosion in St. Petersburg Metro

Post by The Conservative » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:37 pm

ssu wrote:Russian doctrine is this:

Something bad might happen in the future and Russia might have a conflict with it's neighbours. If so, be ready for it now and don't start to plan and do something about it only then, because then it's too late to start doing something. So do it now, make the preparations. The effort might be valuable in the distant future, decades from now. With this you can pack a bigger punch than what your economic and military power would give you.

This is the thing why Americans may find it puzzling that a) we have good relations with Russia and b) Russia has those Spetnaz cells here ready to kill important persons like fighter pilots and commanders etc. Both exist on the same time. Because if you talk about point b), it sounds like they seem to saying that the Russians are coming. Not so. They just prepare for the worst. In the mean time, the relations can be just fine.

Hence Russia can do many things that are threating, but that isn't going to lead to unavoidably to conflict. But the information war is fought even in peacetime.

And I'm starting to think that this isn't only a thing which Putin uses to stay in power, there's something very Russian in the utter distrust at the West. Things wouldn't change, even if the leadership in the Kremlin would change.
And I can't honestly disagree with their thought process.
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