Keeanga and Me and Why Hillary?

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Keeanga and Me and Why Hillary?

Post by kybkh » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:06 pm

Jeremy Scahill is a familiar figure to me. I supported his work as long as I have read it for no other reason than it was a voice of reality versus the Fake Media. Over the weekend I went back and re-listened to "INTERCEPTED PODCAST: PRESIDENT TRUMP’S CABINET OF KILLERS AND WHY ORANGE IS THE NEW ANTI-BLACK" https://theintercept.com/2017/02/08/int ... nti-black/ because the title is pretty damn juicy and I picked up a little bit more from my first listening. For starters, that Mattis was Bill Kristol's choice for a 3rd party candidate which is concerning. More informative though was the conversation Scahill had with Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor (Assistant Professor
Department of African American Studies; Ph.D, African American Studies Northwestern University and BLM activist).

During the conversation she made a couple of statements which shows the severe distress the Democratic Party is in.

Right out of the gate is Keeanga's assertion that "(the Democratic Party) take that for granted their base, and consistently try to appeal to more rightwing forces in the country" and this is why they are failing. I agree with Keeanga. The D Party leadership is as Neo-Con as they come. They just obfuscate that fact by arguing about who can use which bathroom.

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A second comment made that caught my attention was "I wrote the book in large part as a way to understand the meaning of Barack Obama’s presidency, really beginning with the question of, how do we explain the emergence of this black social movement, the sort of longest, most enduring black social movement, really, since the 1960s and ‘70s, with a black president, and with the highest concentration of black political power in American history? So not just the black president, but the black attorney general."

What does that mean? Are blacks expected to act in a uniformed way once in positions of power? Did Obama create an administration overweighted with minorities in order to push an agenda for black people? Does the Attorney General and POTUS work hand in hand to promote political agendas? That comment concerned me because she says it carefree. No worry that what she is suggesting is the DJT was correct in assuming that the Hispanic judge ruling on his case might act in a way that is politically motivated to promote an agenda. This is obvious to anyone that uses critical thinking but opposite of what the Fake News reports.

Another excerpt to note: "Obama actually did have a mandate in a way that there’s nothing resembling that with Trump, he did absolutely nothing with it, and instead, sort of wasted that opportunity to just step on the throat of the Republican Party, and put them in a can and bury it in the backyard for a generation, he refused to do it."

In case you had any doubts, these people are playing for keeps. They want permanent, radical, societal change.

We share a lot of similar beliefs however: "I have never voted for a Democrat, and I never will, because I think that that is a party of war. It’s a party of the market. It’s a party of poverty, a party of police violence (Make mental note of this for later), of executions and the death penalty, and I will never vote for it."

Summing up a centerpiece of her political beliefs: I think there’s a basic contradiction between what free marketers and the capitalism and black liberation, or women’s liberation, or LGBTQ liberation, or what liberation would look like for poor and working class people. I think that those two things are in dire conflict with each other. And so, when you have a political party that is steeped in that system and loves it, and does everything in its power to maintain and uphold it, then there’s a basic contradiction in being able to come through for the things that ordinary people need to maintain, let alone improve, any standard or quality of life.

Her promoting identity politics "For people who are concerned about police terrorism and police violence, that is not just a black issue. That is an issue that Latinos have to deal with. That is an issue that Arabs and Muslims have to deal with. And we have to highlight the ways in which those things are connected...And so, we have to see how all of these working class issues are women’s issues. And so, I think the main thing is that we have to see how these issues are connected, and that is the basis upon which we can build a broad movement."

I would love to hear Keeanga's explanation of how she intends for her socialist dream world to be governed. First off, its a given that the govt will be forced to use physical violence against the current middle class to assist in redistributing wealth. Surely, she understands that the policies she promotes are all enforced under the Jack Boot of a militarized police force and would require an ever larger Federal Government. A Federal Government with unconstrained access to personal data.

This is trouble for the Democratic Party. Once leadership changes hand to the next Generation of Dem Leaders and the Boomers become even more conservative in their elderly age the D's will have no connection to Middle America and the "race war" will be on. The Dem Party is firmly under control of the "Big Money Dems" whom use the Black Caucus for muscle and will fall apart in the coming years unless they change their branding.

All this brings me back to the question I have asked since she announced she was running for POTUS: Why Hillary?

Why did the 1st African American President choose as his successor HRC? Why turn to the past when we are trying to move forward? All that she symbolizes besides being a woman is a total turnoff to most voters. They knew she had bad metrics before choosing her. They knew Bill was a liability. They knew she was on tape calling TPP "The Gold Standard". Her negatives could go on for pages yet Obama still chose her.
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Re: Keeanga and Me and Why Hillary?

Post by clubgop » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:16 pm

Why did the 1st African American President choose as his successor HRC? Why turn to the past when we are trying to move forward? All that she symbolizes besides being a woman is a total turnoff to most voters. They new she had bad metrics before choosing her. They new Bill was a liability. They knew she was on tape calling TPP "The Gold Standard". Her negatives could go on for pages yet Obama still chose her.
2008, maybe? 2012? Clinton could have blown the whole thing if she wanted to? Obama waited until July after all those primaries until he endorsed her.

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Re: Keeanga and Me and Why Hillary?

Post by kybkh » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:20 pm

clubgop wrote:
Why did the 1st African American President choose as his successor HRC? Why turn to the past when we are trying to move forward? All that she symbolizes besides being a woman is a total turnoff to most voters. They new she had bad metrics before choosing her. They new Bill was a liability. They knew she was on tape calling TPP "The Gold Standard". Her negatives could go on for pages yet Obama still chose her.
2008, maybe? 2012? Clinton could have blown the whole thing if she wanted to? Obama waited until July after all those primaries until he endorsed her.
Eh, his "endorsement" was implicit from the get go. Just look at the field of challengers presented by the DNC.
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Re: Keeanga and Me and Why Hillary?

Post by C-Mag » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:23 pm

kybkh wrote:
All this brings me back to the question I have asked since she announced she was running for POTUS: Why Hillary?

Why did the 1st African American President choose as his successor HRC? Why turn to the past when we are trying to move forward? All that she symbolizes besides being a woman is a total turnoff to most voters. They new she had bad metrics before choosing her. They new Bill was a liability. They knew she was on tape calling TPP "The Gold Standard". Her negatives could go on for pages yet Obama still chose her.
For me it's all very simple.

Hillary was the choice of the Elite Establishment.
In the video below the emergence of the US integration to the Global Elites is laid out, it started in the 80's and we went full globalist with BJ Clinton. Keep that in mind and think about how Hillary set herself up for '16 and ran her campaign. Her whole campaign was about getting a concensus of global Elites, which she did as Sec of State with the Clinton Foundation. Hillary was the Bi-Partisan pick of the Elites. Our system has married finance, political leadership and business and that has left everyone else out. Hence the wage gap, missing middle class, etc.

I've just started listening to Steve Bannon to see where he's coming from. He did this documentary on how we ended up with the financial crisis of '08 and TARP.



Hillary positioned herself to be the only choice of the establishment, but forgot about the average people that also got a vote.
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Re: Keeanga and Me and Why Hillary?

Post by clubgop » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:25 pm

kybkh wrote:
clubgop wrote:
Why did the 1st African American President choose as his successor HRC? Why turn to the past when we are trying to move forward? All that she symbolizes besides being a woman is a total turnoff to most voters. They new she had bad metrics before choosing her. They new Bill was a liability. They knew she was on tape calling TPP "The Gold Standard". Her negatives could go on for pages yet Obama still chose her.
2008, maybe? 2012? Clinton could have blown the whole thing if she wanted to? Obama waited until July after all those primaries until he endorsed her.
Eh, his "endorsement" was implicit from the get go. Just look at the field of challengers presented by the DNC.
It was that way in 2008 until Obama came out of nowhere. If Bernie Sanders was a 30 years younger and wasn't so easily bought by Democrats, it would have been him.

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Re: Keeanga and Me and Why Hillary?

Post by kybkh » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:32 pm

C-Mag wrote:
kybkh wrote:
All this brings me back to the question I have asked since she announced she was running for POTUS: Why Hillary?

Why did the 1st African American President choose as his successor HRC? Why turn to the past when we are trying to move forward? All that she symbolizes besides being a woman is a total turnoff to most voters. They new she had bad metrics before choosing her. They new Bill was a liability. They knew she was on tape calling TPP "The Gold Standard". Her negatives could go on for pages yet Obama still chose her.
For me it's all very simple.

Hillary was the choice of the Elite Establishment.
In the video below the emergence of the US integration to the Global Elites is laid out, it started in the 80's and we went full globalist with BJ Clinton. Keep that in mind and think about how Hillary set herself up for '16 and ran her campaign. Her whole campaign was about getting a concensus of global Elites, which she did as Sec of State with the Clinton Foundation. Hillary was the Bi-Partisan pick of the Elites. Our system has married finance, political leadership and business and that has left everyone else out. Hence the wage gap, missing middle class, etc.

Hillary positioned herself to be the only choice of the establishment, but forgot about the average people that also got a vote.
This could be the answer. What is weird here though is that it implies Obama considers himself a "Global Elite" before he sees himself as a "Black Man". Breaking the SJW rule that being colorblind is racist.

Like Keeanga stated he had the most political influence of any black politician in the history of the world and the organization that he controlled, the DNC was 100% behind HRC.
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Re: Keeanga and Me and Why Hillary?

Post by C-Mag » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:18 pm

kybkh wrote:
This could be the answer. What is weird here though is that it implies Obama considers himself a "Global Elite" before he sees himself as a "Black Man". Breaking the SJW rule that being colorblind is racist.

Like Keeanga stated he had the most political influence of any black politician in the history of the world and the organization that he controlled, the DNC was 100% behind HRC.
It would explain Hillary's entire campaign. Her arrogance in debates, the disbelief of not only the loss, but merely being challenged. Remember the, ' Why Aren't I 50 Points Ahead?', the first campaign slogan, 'Her Turn'.

Obama is a strange cat. He's first and foremost a street protestor and Social Justice Warrior. If you look what BHO was most passionate about was Anti-cops, LGBT issues and Muslim innocence. It's a weird mix rolled up in a guy who wanted to knock us down a notch and bow to the rest of the world.
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Re: Keeanga and Me and Why Hillary?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:15 pm

You'd think Michael would be more careful about letting photographers get shots of his male fingers.