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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:23 pm

brewster wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:22 pm
StCapps wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:02 pm
What percentage of the earth's climate changing is on humans, and what percentage has nothing to do with human activity?
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Yeah, I know correlation=/=causation. Except when it does. We have geologic evidence that CO2 levels affect global temp.
That doesn't answer the question. What is the percentage of human contribution compared to non-human contribution, put a number on it. If you or the climate scientists don't even have a good guess, what makes you think your solutions will work as intended when you don't even know how much of the climate change is on humans?
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Re: 2020 election

Post by Ph64 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:15 pm

StCapps wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:23 pm
brewster wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:22 pm
StCapps wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:02 pm
What percentage of the earth's climate changing is on humans, and what percentage has nothing to do with human activity?
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Yeah, I know correlation=/=causation. Except when it does. We have geologic evidence that CO2 levels affect global temp.
That doesn't answer the question. What is the percentage of human contribution compared to non-human contribution, put a number on it. If you or the climate scientists don't even have a good guess, what makes you think your solutions will work as intended when you don't even know how much of the climate change is on humans?
So in other words, from your graphs, the solution to Climate Change is mass extermination.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by C-Mag » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:19 pm

I see hockey sticks, hockey sticks everywhere. :shock: I'm suddenly scared.
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Re: 2020 election

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:27 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:02 pm
Look climate scientists discovered most powerful body in our solar system affects warming and cooling :o
NASA: Climate Change occurs because of changes in Earth’s solar orbit
https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-08-30- ... fuels.html


In the last month this climate change/global warming bullshit has been proven to be a giant fucking fraud................... now don't you true believers in the religion of climate change feel fucking stupid.
Nice deceptive headline. NASA of course has admitted no such thing. All the article does is link to some NASA diagrams explaining Milankovitch cycles.
The same cycles that just a few weeks ago were used as an argument for global warming because otherwise we were heading for an ice age.
The only thing to conclude is that some climate change denying websites have only just heard of Milankovitch cycles.
Well they've learnt a little science. Bravo. However...


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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:30 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:27 pm
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
The Climate Doomsday Crowd is a prime example of that. They look at little tidbits of science they understand and jump to whacky counter-productive solutions to the perceived problem, that always involves more government control over people's lives. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing indeed, look in the mirror before you go pointing fingers, if you don't want to look like a dumbass that is.
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Re: 2020 election

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:39 pm

What counter productive solutions?
Don't get all wide sweeping statements on me again, we've been through this already.
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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:05 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:39 pm
What counter productive solutions?
Don't get all wide sweeping statements on me again, we've been through this already.
If you can't even come up with a single solution that doesn't involve government intervention, then you simply cannot be reasoned with. Until you can come up with one, you argue in bad faith, and are simply trying to grab more power for the government and using "the environment" as your justification for wanting to control other people's lives by force.

If that wasn't the case, then you could come up with at least one solution that doesn't involve more taxes for the government to blow on central planning boondoggles or more government regulation. If you can't, it means your actual goal has nothing to do with the environment, you are actually completely full of shit and are just a control freak.
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Re: 2020 election

Post by Hastur » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:28 am

Earth will do fine. It's been through a lot. Humans believing they can affect climate is a superstition. Calling it a religion is an insult to religions.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by C-Mag » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:32 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:39 pm
What counter productive solutions?
Don't get all wide sweeping statements on me again, we've been through this already.
There is no clean energy. All energy comes with a price. Wind and Solar are based on extraction industries to produce the resources necessary.

How green is this ?
https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/ ... 125629001/
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Re: 2020 election

Post by C-Mag » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:35 am

Hastur wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:28 am
Earth will do fine. It's been through a lot. Humans believing they can affect climate is a superstition. Calling it a religion is an insult to religions.

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Exactly, we don't make a fucking pimple on the earths ass when it comes to the geologic timeline, not to mention the cosmic timeline.

It's fraud. But I sympathize with folks that believed what they were told. If you've bought in to this shit for 20 years or more, it's hard to walk away from.
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