The end of antibiotics?

[Hastur]

WHO publishes list of bacteria for which new antibiotics are urgently needed

27 FEBRUARY 2017 | GENEVA - WHO today published its first ever list of antibiotic-resistant "priority pathogens" – a catalogue of 12 families of bacteria that pose the greatest threat to human health.

The list was drawn up in a bid to guide and promote research and development (R&D) of new antibiotics, as part of WHO’s efforts to address growing global resistance to antimicrobial medicines.

The list highlights in particular the threat of gram-negative bacteria that are resistant to multiple antibiotics. These bacteria have built-in abilities to find new ways to resist treatment and can pass along genetic material that allows other bacteria to become drug-resistant as well.

Drug resistant salmonella, gonorrhea, tbc and carbapenem-resistant intestinal bacteria. Yummy!

It's possible that we will look back at the last 100 years as the golden age of health were we had this magical thing called antibiotics. Then we fucked up...

[Zlaxer]

Lazy and cowardly MDs are to blame.....they don't want to get sued so they overprescribe to cover their ass.....or they don't want to deal with a troublesome patient who crises for antibiotics at the slightest ear ache.

[Zlaxer]

Ps. - don't get sick

[Zlaxer]

Nono machines may save us.

[Hastur]

Nono machines may save us.

[ssu]

The excessive use of antibiotics makes resistant diseases.

I remember when visiting Russia visitors were warned about antibiotics resistant tuberculosis. This had happened in Russia has been poor people or prisoners that have been treated antibiotics have then stopped the medication too early and basically gotten the disease to become immune. Medical term for it is multidrug-resistant tuberculosis or MDR-TB. So avoid coughing bums in Russia (and avoid Russian criminals in general).

Another dangerous place is simply hospitals. The real threat if you have surgery isn't the surgery itself, but get some resistant sickness from the hospital itself. One way for example is to avoid giving flowers to recovering patients. The water where the flowers are can be the place where the bacteria develop.

[C-Mag]

We are far overdue for a big die off of humans. I'm not hoping for it, but we can't push it off forever. Eventually something will come along and infect 20-60% of the population and kill 5-50% of the population. It's just gonna happen.

Who knows what a 21st Century pandemic would look like.

[Speaker to Animals]

The black death might make a comeback if somebody uncovers it in the Levant again. The more war and deprivation in that region, the more likely it happens.

Not that antibiotics would help against a virus.

[ssu]

We are far overdue for a big die off of humans. I'm not hoping for it, but we can't push it off forever. Eventually something will come along and infect 20-60% of the population and kill 5-50% of the population. It's just gonna happen.

Who knows what a 21st Century pandemic would look like.

I'm not so sure. Modern medicine and health care do have an effect. The Spanish flu wouldn't be a similar killer now as it was then. And then basically the number of humans will not grow perpetually. Likely it will reach the top around the double of the current population.

Making people more affluent is the way to get birth rates down: you don't have to a have a huge flock of children as to take care of you when you are old, savings (or a decent pension system) can do it. I think it's suprising to many just how many countries are at the fertility rate of 2 or less as 2 (or 2.1) will give you a situation where the population keeps at the same level. What is interesting is that for example Turkey as a Muslim country basically has similar fertility rate as the US. Suprisingly Iran (not on the table here) is far lower than the US.



You find higher fertility rates in poorer countries. So lets hope that the trend that we have been on globally will continue (of people becoming more prosperous).

[C-Mag]

We are far overdue for a big die off of humans. I'm not hoping for it, but we can't push it off forever. Eventually something will come along and infect 20-60% of the population and kill 5-50% of the population. It's just gonna happen.

Who knows what a 21st Century pandemic would look like.

I'm not so sure. Modern medicine and health care do have an effect. The Spanish flu wouldn't be a similar killer now as it was then. And then basically the number of humans will not grow perpetually. Likely it will reach the top around the double of the current population.

Making people more affluent is the way to get birth rates down: you don't have to a have a huge flock of children as to take care of you when you are old, savings (or a decent pension system) can do it. I think it's suprising to many just how many countries are at the fertility rate of 2 or less as 2 (or 2.1) will give you a situation where the population keeps at the same level. What is interesting is that for example Turkey as a Muslim country basically has similar fertility rate as the US. Suprisingly Iran (not on the table here) is far lower than the US.



You find higher fertility rates in poorer countries. So lets hope that the trend that we have been on globally will continue (of people becoming more prosperous).

History tells us that the world has a way to create deadly diseases that are highly resistant to a civilizations ability to treat those diseases with their current tools and methods.

Pope Clement IV sat between heated braziers constantly to purify the 'bad air' that caused the plague. Best science of the day.
In 1919 the best science of the day could not treat the masses quick enough, and even if they had, they may have gotten it wrong.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/276060.php

It is likely we can run into a new disease that we are incapable of reacting quickly enough to stop. And with population densities in so many urban jungles and long geographic travel corridors the right disease could affect and kill before you could get to an overloaded hospital.