Who do you want to win?

Who do you want to win?

Michael Flynn
10
59%
Steve Bannon
7
41%
 
Total votes: 17

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Re: Who do you want to win?

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:58 am

ssu wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote: Seriously dude, when are you going to admit you're a biased fucktard that is about as clued in with Americans as I am with what it's like to get payed to live in an apartment in Finland while doing absolutely nothing. Please neck yourself.
That answer tells a lot about you.

I think the number of posts do tell that I'm not being here all the time. Unlike... :whistle:
Not an argument.

You're trying to insinuate because I'm on the phone posting at you during Europe hours a lot, that means I'm unqualified to do the job of the unemployed, uneducated, not educated faggot that gets free rent and food where you live.

Yeah. I imagine you don't like knocking that gravy train.

Explains a lot about you actually.
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Re: Who do you want to win?

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:00 am

ssu wrote:Oh I think Bannon is far more reasonable than he is depicted. Yet those moves, a demotion of the JSC and DNI and the promotion of your chief political advisor shows something.
What does it show? Politics uber alles? In this day and age, that's realpolitik. If you don't win the Meme War, you don't win at all, welcome to postmodernity, ssu, pull up a chair.
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Re: Who do you want to win?

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:30 am

On the other hand, there is modern precedent for this sort of setup, in terms of the national security side, you know whose White House this reminds me of? JFK's

Jack, Bobby, Kenny O'Donnell, and fuck the Joint Chiefs & Co, this Trump-a-lot seems a lot like Camelot.

Kennedy didn't trust the CIA, didn't have a DNI, and what the fuck did Max Taylor and crew ever do for him? They almost blew up the world, it was only Kennedy who pulled the Chicken Switch.
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Re: Who do you want to win?

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:34 am

We have Russia now. The earth is literally shaking.

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Re: Who do you want to win?

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:40 am

Actually, that's eerily similar to Kennedy as well, JFK was the Soviets prefered candidate, they did not want Nixon, they wanted Kennedy, and they did everything they could to help him win, when Khruschev met Kennedy, first thing he said was "I got you elected".

In the early days of Camelot, Kennedy and Khruschev had a bromance that was eerily similar to Trump and Putin.
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Re: Who do you want to win?

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:55 am

And you know how the Democucks were freaking out about Flynn talking to the Russians through back channels? That's how it was with Kennedy was well, Bobby Kennedy had a back channel thing going with a GRU Colonel mamed Georgi Bolshakov.

You know, one of the reasons why JFK was so inflamed by the discovery of missiles in Cuba, was that they thought they had a kind of detente going with the Soviets, they thought they had lines of communication which would prevent that sort of thing, so when they put the pictures of the missiles in Cuba in front of Kennedy, Kennedy was all...



... the thing that pissed Kennedy off the most, was not that the Soviets might try to do that, but that they would try to do that, in secret, like a Pearl Harbor sneak attack, while they were lying to him straight to his face, punking him off like a chump.

Which by the way, Khruscevs chief advisor on Cuba told him was a very bad idea, he said, if you're going to do this, do it in the open, with a formal agreement, the way the Americans did with Turkey, don't try to do this coverty, because if the Americans find out that we are trying to sneak up on them, they will fucking flip out.
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Re: Who do you want to win?

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:47 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Which by the way, Khruscevs chief advisor on Cuba told him was a very bad idea, he said, if you're going to do this, do it in the open, with a formal agreement, the way the Americans did with Turkey, don't try to do this coverty, because if the Americans find out that we are trying to sneak up on them, they will fucking flip out.
No shit?

That is interesting.
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Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Re: Who do you want to win?

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:04 am

From the (post Stalinist) Soviet point of view, Castro's revolution in Cuba represented the "New Generation" of socialists, the Soviet's felt an affinity for them, the Soviets idolized them in fact, the Soviet's were not planning to attack the United States, their fear, confirmed by the Bay of Pigs and Operation Mongoose, was simply that America was going to invade Cuba and overthrow the fledgling revolution, and so the Soviets had to do something to prevent this, in addition, the Americans had formally put IRBM's in Turkey, so the Soviets needed to deter the Americans by responding to that as well, putting missiles in Cuba was simply quid pro quo.

There was a split amongst the Soviets, those who said that they would never get the missiles in there at all if they didn't sneak them in, and those who said that sneaking them in would backfire if the Americans found out about it.
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Re: Who do you want to win?

Post by ssu » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:16 am

The Chairman of the Joints Chiefs of Staff already responded to the bullshit proposal.
The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff says President Trump’s overhaul of the National Security Council (NSC) will not lessen his involvement with the group.

“The recently announced organization of the National Security Council and Homeland Security Council makes it clear the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff will fully participate in the Interagency process to provide best military advice to the President and members of his National Security Council,” Marine Gen. Joseph Dunford said in a statement Monday, according to ABC News.
See Joint Chiefs chairman: I’ll ‘fully participate’ in NSC

Guess that the armed forces simply made it clear that anything that the NSC deals with is within the "issues pertaining to their responsibilities and expertise.”

Yeah! :D

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Re: Who do you want to win?

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:25 am

Except the whole story was liberal media generated bullshit in the first place, it's all John McCain and Lindsay Graham just making shit up, and then the liberal media runs it as the gospel, meanwhile, the White House denies that Dunford was ever sidelined, and the Pentagon denies that Dunford was ever sidelined, the LibCucks just makes this shit up, the "Alt Right Darth Vader Bannon is taking over!", and those who are concern trolls looking for any straw to grasp on to, grasp on to the straw that is thrown out there for them.

Supposedly ssu "knows how it works in Washington", and yet he's completely incapable of spotting the massive Democuck media generated hysteria campaign being run against Trump 24-7-365 ? Curious, that, eh?

There's the Liberal Media, there's Democrats, and there's John McCain and Lindsay Graham, that's 90% of the opposition right there, generating 90% bullshit. Why? We know why; because they're desperate to the point of being hysterical, because Trump is running the table on them.

Is Trump whacky? Perhaps he is, but he's not nearly as whacky as this absurdly biased, utterly corrupt, and hysterically deranged Washington insider campaign to try to stop him at any cost.
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