Russian Hack Conspiracy Theory Unraveling

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Russian Hack Conspiracy Theory Unraveling

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:18 pm

I think this deserves a new thread.
CrowdStrike, the third-party company relied upon by the FBI to make its assessment about alleged Russian hacking into the Democratic National Committee (DNC), was financed to the tune of $100 million from a funding drive last year led by Google Capital.
Google Capital, which now goes by the name of CapitalG, is an arm of Alphabet Inc., Google’s parent company. Eric Schmidt, the chairman of Alphabet, has been a staunch and active supporter of Hillary Clinton and is a longtime donor to the Democratic Party.

On Thursday, a senior law enforcement official told CNN that the DNC “rebuffed” the agency’s request to physically examine its computer servers after the alleged hacking. Instead, the FBI relied on CrowdStrike’s assessment that the servers had most likely been hacked by Russian agents.

“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated,” CNN quoted the senior law enforcement official as saying. “This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier.”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... nked-firm/


I was fairly certain CrowdStrike was a joke company that simply points fingers at whomever one wants to blame for a hack, but now with news of Google capital infusion it's becoming even clearer what has happened.


This fake news implosion began a few days ago when Buzzfeed broke the story that not the FBI nor any intelligence agency actually investigated the allegedly hacked DNC servers. Instead, they relied upon the CrowdStrike report paid for by the DNC.
According to one intelligence official who spoke to the publication, no U.S. intelligence agency has performed its own forensics analysis on the hacked servers.

Instead, the official said, the bureau and other agencies have relied on analysis done by the third-party security firm CrowdStrike, which investigated the breach for the DNC.
“Crowdstrike is pretty good. There’s no reason to believe that anything that they have concluded is not accurate,” the intelligence official told BuzzFeed.
DNC officials told the press that the FBI didn't want to investigate the servers. But now FBI agents have gone to the press claiming that they requested access to conduct a forensic investigation on the server, and the DNC rebuffed their request.
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE Democratic National Committee hack and Russia’s alleged involvement have been swirling for months, and have intensified as the intelligence community prepares to brief president-elect Donald Trump about its conclusions on Friday and release a declassified report next week. Ahead of this announcement, the DNC told Buzzfeed on Wednesday that neither the FBI nor any other intelligence agency ever did an independent assessment of the organization’s breached servers. Instead, they alleged, the FBI relied exclusively on information from private digital forensics company Crowdstrike. Now the FBI is refuting this account of the events.

In a statement to WIRED, a senior FBI law enforcement official wrote in an email Thursday that “The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated.” This contrasts with what DNC deputy communications director Eric Walker told Buzzfeed in an email: “The DNC had several meetings with representatives of the FBI’s Cyber Division and its Washington (DC) Field Office, the Department of Justice’s National Security Division, and U.S. Attorney’s Offices, and it responded to a variety of requests for cooperation, but the FBI never requested access to the DNC’s computer servers.”
https://www.wired.com/2017/01/fbi-says- ... l-servers/



This is yet another fake news story in the process of imploding (again). This is similar to the fake news story (also enabled by CrowdStrike) that North Korea hacked Sony, presumably prompting the US government to shutdown the internet in North Korea for hours in "retaliation". It's similar to the fake news stories, peddled by these same "news" outlets, regarding Iraqi nuclear weapons programs, leading to the Iraq War, which led to ISIS.

This isn't about rubbing their noses in the shit they keep leaving everywhere in the media. This is a serious problem, with potentially dire ramifications. They are partly responsible for hundreds of thousands of fatalities in Iraq doing exactly this kind of lying and propaganda. These people absolutely need to be checked and humiliated for this. It's not a mistake. They know they have no evidence. They are propagandists. Nothing more. The Washington Post would make William Randolph Hearst blush in embarrassment of the brazenness and depravity on display.

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Re: Russian Hack Conspiracy Theory Unraveling

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:20 pm

And, for the record, I am not saying it's impossible that Russia hacked the DNC server and exposed the democratic party for the lying, corrupt, crooks that they are. What I am saying is that there is no proof who did it at all, and the principle actor who knows the identity claims it's an insider. The evidence, circumstantial all-around, still doesn't lead to Russia.

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Re: Russian Hack Conspiracy Theory Unraveling

Post by kybkh » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:30 pm

Evidence tampered with by 3rd parties would immediately be thrown out in a court case. If the actual servers were never examined by law enforcement agencies...wtf
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Re: Russian Hack Conspiracy Theory Unraveling

Post by Zlaxer » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:35 pm

The FBI is a hack of an organization.....nobody trusts them anymore....

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Re: Russian Hack Conspiracy Theory Unraveling

Post by Okeefenokee » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:05 pm

Zlaxer wrote:The FBI is a hack of an organization.....nobody trusts them anymore....
Seriously. I've never seen a more pathetic string of, "we asked, but they said no, so we said okay."

I don't think they've examined a single piece of evidence that wasn't given to them after they asked for it, rather than showing up and taking it before someone could alter it.
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Re: Russian Hack Conspiracy Theory Unraveling

Post by Xenophon » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:13 am

But guiz! Da intelegense serfices sayd it wuz da Rushins! We shuud beleef dem becuz dat's der job!

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Re: Russian Hack Conspiracy Theory Unraveling

Post by BjornP » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:15 am

You should all clearly believe what the Russian intelligence services tell you, instead. After all, anyone who doesn't or didn't support Hillary, is an ally.... :clap:
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Re: Russian Hack Conspiracy Theory Unraveling

Post by Xenophon » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:33 am

BjornP wrote:You should all clearly believe what the Russian intelligence services tell you, instead. After all, anyone who doesn't or didn't support Hillary, is an ally.... :clap:
No, we should make our judgments based on clear facts. Not "the intelligence community thinks, therefore it is."

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Re: Russian Hack Conspiracy Theory Unraveling

Post by BjornP » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:24 am

Xenophon wrote:
BjornP wrote:You should all clearly believe what the Russian intelligence services tell you, instead. After all, anyone who doesn't or didn't support Hillary, is an ally.... :clap:
No, we should make our judgments based on clear facts. Not "the intelligence community thinks, therefore it is."
Ah right, "the clear facts" about what the intelligence community have found out can only be found anywhere except with said intelligence community. Very logical, that.
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