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DBTrek
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Re: Fake News

Post by DBTrek » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:44 am

BjornP wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:29 am
DB, your claim was more than just that it was "bad". You specifically claimed that it "It wants to act as a central, global, power". So... where do you actually see that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Na ... ty_Council

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Na ... al_Council

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Na ... ecretariat

Who believes the United Nations Security Council is primarily concerned with the security of the USA?
Who believes the United Nations Economic and Social Council is primarily concerned with the economic health of the USA?

And if you believe this, you must explain why China, France, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom are also primarily concerned with what benefits the USA. Since ... you know ... they can veto whatever they want.

Otherwise you have to accept that it's a global organization (as it claims) looking out for global well being (as it claims) defined by the UN Secretariat. I won't even get into their Human Rights committee yet.

I'll pause here so everyone who wants to point out that the HQ is in Manhattan can chime in again, because apparently that's extremely relevant to some folks.
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Re: Fake News

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:51 am

DBTrek wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:15 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:00 pm
Just saying, the UN is an American institution, it was created by Franklin Roosevelt,

America is not subject to the UN, the UN is subject to America.

America built it to favor America, in that America can use it as a sword which cannot be turned back on America.

The UN is not some foreign power, it's actually an American weapon.

When it suits America, America invokes the UN, when it doesn't, America ignores it, and that was by design.

Oh, Saddam Hussein, UNSC on you, suckah.

George W Bush? Nah, doesn't work that way, the UN works for America, America is not subject to it,

It's not a coincidence that it is headquartered in Manhattan. It's not foreign, America owns it.
Sort of. We co-own it with China, France, Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom. But I don't like the idea of trying to share ownership of the globe among 5 veto-power nations. You go from 195 actual world nations to five power nations running the show, then what? Five power nations down to two? Then one?

My opposition comes from the belief that there is only one way to keep people free, and that's by decentralizing power. For example, the US has 50 states instead of one giant national landmass. The government has three co-equal branches. From the founding onward efforts have been made in this nation to keep power from accumulating into too few hands.

The UN - it operates incomplete opposition to the idea of decentralization of power. It wants to act as a central, global, power. That's why I don't like it, even as a co-owned puppet organization.
It's just a debating club, it has no power, it's an American institution created by and for America.

Anytime America so decides to turn it off, it would cease to exist

How many Divisions does the UN have ? None.

All these entities, UN, NATO, IMF, World Bank, etcetera, it's all the American Hegenomy. Pax Americana

America is center of power, if that goes away, then we'll have another world war : war of hegemonic succession.

America v. the New World Order ? False dichotomy. America is the New World Order, since 1945.
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Re: Fake News

Post by Hastur » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:05 pm

UNRWA

Nuff said.
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Re: Fake News

Post by PartyOf5 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:43 am

Here are the headlines:

Gusty winds blew over a section of Trump's border wall with Mexico
Trump's wall: High winds blow over section of US-Mexico border fence
A chunk of Donald Trump's new border wall blew over

Eventually the articles get to the cause: This was a newly poured section where the concrete had not yet cured.

Obvious deception by the media depicting "Trump's" wall as a failure because it can't even stand up to wind.

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Re: Fake News

Post by Xenophon » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:19 am

Hastur wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:05 pm
UNRWA

Nuff said.
United Nations Retro Wrestling Association.

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