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Post by C-Mag » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:50 am

Hastur wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:38 am
How can the bubble burst if no one can default on their debt and the government is the only credit risk taker?
Good Point, I think the article is taking the position that degrees are losing value in the market place and the cost of attaining a degree is over priced.
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Post by Ph64 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:53 am

Hastur wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:38 am
How can the bubble burst if no one can default on their debt and the government is the only credit risk taker?
The entire thing is a scam.

Look, I somewhat understand the "no bankruptcy" thing - if say 50% of students don't find a well paying job (or any job) after graduation then they could immediately claim bankruptcy, no assets, no (or little) income, $100k+ in debt with unsustainable payments - that's the definition of bankrupt. It's the govt backing that corrupts it - if that wasn't there then banks might actually enforce only giving loans to top GPA students going into careers/majors with a decent chance of them earning enough to repay the loans. The govt has no business in backing loans for "feminist lesbian dance theory" majors.

Perhaps even just saying student loans are not dischargable for say 10 years after graduation would change things, would it force tougher loan standards? I dunno, but the existing system is stupid. It's really not all that different than the "give a home loan to anyone with a pulse" that caused the 2008 GFC.

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Post by Ph64 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:06 am

Harvard Prof: Merit-based admissions 'reproduce inequality'I

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=11281
But Warikoo seems concerned with students’ responses. Analyzing data from these interviews years later, Warikoo points out that students’ approaches to diversity suggest that they’ve “internalized” the tokenistic rhetoric of the school admissions office, even if they had disagreed with policies like athletic recruitment or legacy admissions before coming to campus.

“Unlike in other campus domains in which there is a history of social protest among college students, in the realm of admissions, students seem to agree quite strongly with their universities, and come to even more agreement rather than critique upon arriving to campus,” she writes. “They suggest that most actors in elite institutions espouse views that reproduce their elite status, rather than engaging in symbolic politics or protest.”

According to Warikoo, “US students espouse a collective understanding of merit,” but only “value collective merit for its impact on themselves, not for social justice, or for the collective good of society.”

“They are not espousing, for example, a vision of multiculturalism that emphasizes group identities and the need to support ethnic and racial groups in society, as many scholars define multicultural state policies,” she elaborates.
Horrors!! They aren't espousing Social Justice, multiculturalism, and race based policy!! :roll:
Dastardly kids actually want an education that might land them a job rather than just getting good feelz.

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Post by The Conservative » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:38 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:52 am
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Dude, they cannot even compose a simple letter in English. Government stats on their own performance are not very compelling. The fact that the people educating children cannot compose a letter speaks volumes.
Are you using one letter full of typo's to condemn the whole education system?
When the head of an educational system can't write a letter, fuck yes... that's like saying that you want to give someone a sniper job that has coke bottle glasses... you know something is going to go wrong somewhere.
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Post by Montegriffo » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:41 am

For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Post by DBTrek » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:00 pm

TEACHER CLAIMS SHE WAS FIRED FOR VIOLATING 'NO ZERO' POLICY BY NOT GIVING CREDIT TO STUDENTS WHO DIDN'T TURN IN PROJECT

...However, she said the school wanted her to automatically input a grade of 50 percent, despite having no assignment to grade, as some kids didn’t turn the project in. Tirado said she expressed her opinion about the policy with the teacher’s union and her assistant principals.

If we are creating people of entitlement to the point where they’re expecting something for nothing what kind of world do you have?” she wondered.

In a statement to Newsweek, St. Lucie Public Schools rebuked Tirado’s claim that there is a policy that prevents teachers from giving students a grade of zero if no work is turned in. The school added that the zero on the grading scale in the handbook is there to indicate work “not attempted” or “incomplete.”

When Tirado was told to input the minimum grade before the marking period was over, she argued that if students got 50 percent without turning the assignment in, a student who received 50 percent for completing the assignment should really be given 100 percent.

Why should they work hard when they know they’re going to pass?” Tirado told Newsweek. “A kid looks me in the eye and says, ‘I don’t have to do anything and you have to give me a 50.’”...

https://www.newsweek.com/teacher-claims ... 7573?amp=1
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:04 pm

They probably need more money to get it right this time.

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