Public School Education System Thread

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Post by Montegriffo » Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:19 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:44 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:41 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:29 am
It's so important that these people indoctrinate I mean educate British children that parents are literally fined and prosecuted for not handing their children over to the state.
'Cos what we really need is uneducated thugs with no respect for law or learning.

That's the problem, though, isn't it?

They are not educating kids at all. They cannot even spell. If that was a text message from a phone, I would just assume the same shit the rest of us have to deal with posting here. But it's not. That was composed in a word processor -- with spell check.
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Re: Public School Education System Thread

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:45 am

Dude, they cannot even compose a simple letter in English. Government stats on their own performance are not very compelling. The fact that the people educating children cannot compose a letter speaks volumes.

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Re: Public School Education System Thread

Post by Montegriffo » Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:52 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:45 am
Dude, they cannot even compose a simple letter in English. Government stats on their own performance are not very compelling. The fact that the people educating children cannot compose a letter speaks volumes.
Are you using one letter full of typo's to condemn the whole education system?
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Re: Public School Education System Thread

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:03 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:52 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:45 am
Dude, they cannot even compose a simple letter in English. Government stats on their own performance are not very compelling. The fact that the people educating children cannot compose a letter speaks volumes.
Are you using one letter full of typo's to condemn the whole education system?

The education system deemed it favorable to place this women in charge of a school. She is a product of that system. An education system that actually cares about educating children does not place a functional illiterate in charge of the education of children.

These were not Android typos. She composed that on a word processor.

What exactly do you think would happen to Fife's job if he submitted a document to the court carpet-bombed with typos like this?

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Post by Fife » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:05 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:52 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:45 am
Dude, they cannot even compose a simple letter in English. Government stats on their own performance are not very compelling. The fact that the people educating children cannot compose a letter speaks volumes.
Are you using one letter full of typo's to condemn the whole education system?

*typos

You're doing fine on that account all by yourself, old bean.

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Post by Ph64 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:19 pm

Purely anecdotal, but another forum I'm on there's a (retiring after this year) 20+yr college professor who commented that over her time teaching she's seen a dramatic drop in literacy of incoming freshman, to the point they're now teaching remedial English and math classes because many incoming students can't actually write a coherent paragraph much less a whole paper on something, and their math skills are atrocious.

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Post by clubgop » Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:29 pm

Ph64 wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:19 pm
Purely anecdotal, but another forum I'm on there's a (retiring after this year) 20+yr college professor who commented that over her time teaching she's seen a dramatic drop in literacy of incoming freshman, to the point they're now teaching remedial English and math classes because many incoming students can't actually write a coherent paragraph much less a whole paper on something, and their math skills are atrocious.
Admission standards for this particular university may play a part.

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Post by C-Mag » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:31 pm

The Higher Education Bubble Is Bursting — And That's A Good Thing
Useless Degrees: A good indication of a tightening labor market is the fact that several major corporations have dropped their college degree requirements. College just became an even bigger waste of time and money for many.

Job recruiting site Glassdoor recently reported that companies like Google, Apple, IBM, Bank of America no longer require that applicants have a college degree...………………………..


Where did all that money go? As economist Mark Perry notes, mostly to overhead. College administrator jobs have climbed much faster than student enrollment.

In the rush to enroll as many students as possible, colleges clearly have been lowering their standards. Walter Williams points out that only 37% of today's high school graduates are proficient in reading and 25% in math. Yet colleges will enroll more than half of them. "It's inconceivable that college administrators are unaware that they are admitting students who are ill-prepared and cannot perform at the college level," he says.
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Re: Public School Education System Thread

Post by Ph64 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:30 am

C-Mag wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:31 pm
The Higher Education Bubble Is Bursting — And That's A Good Thing
Useless Degrees: A good indication of a tightening labor market is the fact that several major corporations have dropped their college degree requirements. College just became an even bigger waste of time and money for many.

Job recruiting site Glassdoor recently reported that companies like Google, Apple, IBM, Bank of America no longer require that applicants have a college degree...………………………..


Where did all that money go? As economist Mark Perry notes, mostly to overhead. College administrator jobs have climbed much faster than student enrollment.

In the rush to enroll as many students as possible, colleges clearly have been lowering their standards. Walter Williams points out that only 37% of today's high school graduates are proficient in reading and 25% in math. Yet colleges will enroll more than half of them. "It's inconceivable that college administrators are unaware that they are admitting students who are ill-prepared and cannot perform at the college level," he says.
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Certainly not "inconceivable". Once the government to involved with no-bankruptcy student loans lenders have no reason not to provide money to even the worst students, and colleges are guaranteed more "customers" for their services - and thus more income/profit. Toss in "diversity quotas" and you have a steady stream of "cash cow" students, just start lowering admission standards and class grading standards and you increase your income substantially. Who cares if said students are graduating with useless degrees and wind up as coffee shop baristas saddled with unsustainable (yet unescapable) student debt - the school got their money and the banks have a steady "asset" stream of income where even if they don't get paid the loan "value" keeps increasing (to the bank it's an "asset") where the only escape is the death of the borrower. (And given the age of most college students they're pretty much guaranteed that won't happen for say 60 years).

And, of course, note that "socializing" college education ("free" college for all) will probably just make it worse, it'll just put the government on the hook for the college profits rather than the students, you'll get more people with useless degrees that are increasingly meaningless while bankrupting the nation and increasing taxation.
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Post by Hastur » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:38 am

How can the bubble burst if no one can default on their debt and the government is the only credit risk taker?
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