Public School Education System Thread

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Post by Fife » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:50 am

Close the government schools.

There is legal authority in state constitutions for government education. It's wrongheaded, horrific, Marxist policy, but it is legal.

There is no authority in the federal constitution for government education. All federal involvement is illegitimate, in addition to being wrongheaded, horrific, and Marxist.

Close the government schools.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:58 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
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GrumpyCatFace wrote:So how many of your high-school graduates are taught that evolution doesn't exist, and fracking is good for you?
Not the point, the point is; the provinces will decide, it's not a federal government's role to impose a Ministry of Truth on the Confederation, there's only one taxpayer, and it is through the provincial legislatures wherein he decides how his children to are to be educated, the federal government has its own job to do, and stamping out provincial jurisdiction is not one of them, Her Majesty defends the right, including the right to provincial jurisdictions therein.
My question stands. Which province is pushing to avoid evolution? Which one decided to blast students with corporate advertising in the classroom?

Canaderp has what, 12 provinces? Which one will actually teach their students to drink fracking water?
Again, it's not a federal issue, the provinces have their ministries of education, those ministries decide curriculum through their provincial jurisdiction, it's not the role of a federal government to decide provincial issues, in a Confederation, that is what Confederation means.

Ontario, Quebec, Alberta, etcetera, we don't all have the same view of things, and Her Majesty defends our rights not to, through provincial jurisdiction.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:13 pm

AndrewBennett wrote: Completely disagree.

Without a federal government we'd be a hodgepodge of loser states like South America

Besides, kids, whether they are fruit&nut spawn, hillbilly spawn, or east coast trash spawn are all the same. Federal control of their education will go further to eliminate the sectional differences which are the real ongoing problem with America since the beginning.
Yeah, well, just more proof that we Loyalists are actually the small "c" conservatives of North Ameirca, while you republicans are actually a pack of Bolshevist whack jobs at heart; Politburo of Education, American Ministry of Truth.
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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:22 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
Not the point, the point is; the provinces will decide, it's not a federal government's role to impose a Ministry of Truth on the Confederation, there's only one taxpayer, and it is through the provincial legislatures wherein he decides how his children to are to be educated, the federal government has its own job to do, and stamping out provincial jurisdiction is not one of them, Her Majesty defends the right, including the right to provincial jurisdictions therein.
My question stands. Which province is pushing to avoid evolution? Which one decided to blast students with corporate advertising in the classroom?

Canaderp has what, 12 provinces? Which one will actually teach their students to drink fracking water?
Again, it's not a federal issue, the provinces have their ministries of education, those ministries decide curriculum through their provincial jurisdiction, it's not the role of a federal government to decide provincial issues, in a Confederation, that is what Confederation means.

Ontario, Quebec, Alberta, etcetera, we don't all have the same view of things, and Her Majesty defends our rights not to, through provincial jurisdiction.
Sorry, you were saying?

http://www.caps-i.ca/education-in-canada/
All public schools in Canada are provincially accredited, follow a standard curriculum, employ only government certified teachers and are publicly funded.
Canada spends more on education (per capita) than any other country in the G8.
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Re: Public School Education System Thread

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:26 pm

Again, provincial jurisdictions, the provinces acreddit, the provinces decide how the money is spent, if the provincial legislatures of Canada are more focussed on education than Americans are, just more proof that your Federal Ministry of Truth is a fool's errand.

All your DoE amounts to, is another Cultural Marxist cudgel with which to beat your religious folk over the head with, read Grumpy's posts; it's all about attacking the Christians in America, not even subtle.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:36 pm

I think we could do a little better than what we're doing now, but we're never going to get to where we think we can get, and until we realize that, we're just gonna keep throwing money at this with no gains.

Not everyone has it, but it's easy to spot the ones who do. We should stop telling the ones who don't that if they're not STEM majors, they're failures.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:39 pm

Just fyi, we have a religious seperate school system here in Canada, as I said, part of keeping the Queen's Peace of the Confederation, was allowing the French and Irish their own schools, written right into the provincial constitution, Roman Catholics have their own schools, publically funded by law, so Creationism is taught in public school in Canada, it's just taught as a seperate class from science, then the students can decide what they beleive for themselves, and believing in Creationism is no crime, Her Majesty defends the right.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:41 pm

We really need to treat this confrontation with cultural marxism as a domestic war. This weaponized ideology must be neutralized. The people who promote these policies and ideas essentially demand that we subsidize their marxist revolution and hand over our nation states to their crackpot open borders, kumbaya ideology. This is not a dialog. It's not a debate. Either they win and destroy our civilization or we fight back and destroy marxism for good.

They made these enormous gains by controlling government schools, universities, Hollywood, and television networks. Deny them their stranglehold on the primary pillars of our culture, especially the schools that educate our youth.

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:50 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:All your DoE amounts to, is another Cultural Marxist cudgel with which to beat your religious folk over the head with, read Grumpy's posts; it's all about attacking the Christians in America, not even subtle.
Not so. Our 'Upright Citizen Brigade' was the aggressor in this culture war. Not content to rail against the heathens in their special tax-haven clubhouses, they felt the need to 'correct' the rest of us via the education system and morality legislation. They expect the entire nation to teach a non-existent series of "controversies" (evolution, climate, etc, etc) that were resolved by the rest of civilization some time ago. Yet, lest we disturb their special belief-feelz, we decided to accomodate. The virus was let through the cell wall, and is now gestating throughout the rest of society. Now we Not One Time, and Zero Tolerance, and plaster special religious shit on the money, and sculpt religious monuments on courthouse steps, all whistling through fuckery on our way straight to hell on earth, because these willfully ignorant hicks are allowed to have a public voice about their blood cult.

No. I'm not subtle about it. And I'm not the aggressor.
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Re: Public School Education System Thread

Post by StCapps » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:51 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:Just fyi, we have a religious seperate school system here in Canada, as I said, part of keeping the Queen's Peace of the Confederation, was allowing the French and Irish their own schools, written right into the provincial constitution, Roman Catholics have their own schools, publically funded by law, so Creationism is taught in public school in Canada, it's just taught as a seperate class from science, then the students can decide what they beleive for themselves, and believing in Creationism is no crime, Her Majesty defends the right.
Yet our religious school system doesn't result in the disaster that Grumpycat imagines religious schooling to be. If the United States left education to the states like Canada's leave it up to the provinces, it would not result in the religious dystopia he imagines.
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