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Aleppo

Post by DrYouth » Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:30 am

What's the deal with Aleppo...

MSM is all excited about it.

What is the real significance of this battle?
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Re: Aleppo

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:34 am

Hamburger Hill with ruined buildings.

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Re: Aleppo

Post by Kazmyr » Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:44 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:Hamburger Hill with ruined buildings.
Pretty succinct way of putting it.

The only reason I can think of this being a big deal is the "Someone needs to do something about this!" approach. Since the UN is essentially tits on a bull (Aleppo is an alarm bell: the international system has failed), somebody ought to be stepping in.

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Re: Aleppo

Post by MilSpecs » Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:44 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:Hamburger Hill with ruined buildings.
and the bodies of children strewn among the rubble.
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Re: Aleppo

Post by kybkh » Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:48 am

Just as many bodies in Yemen and Iraq.

The Syria-Russia conflict has been driven by the media for over 2 years now. If not the constant white knighting of CNN we'd hear as much about Aleppo as we do Sana'a.
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Re: Aleppo

Post by Montegriffo » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:01 am

DrYouth wrote:What's the deal with Aleppo...

MSM is all excited about it.

What is the real significance of this battle?
It will mark the progression from open warfare to insurgency as IS has lost most of it's territory in Syria now. Although they have re-taken parts of Palmyra while the Syrian forces have been retaking Aleppo.
Expect more deaths of innocent victims.....
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Re: Aleppo

Post by MilSpecs » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:18 am

kybkh wrote:Just as many bodies in Yemen and Iraq.
Not disputing that. The number of young children affected is just particularly heartbreaking right now.
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Re: Aleppo

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:19 am

I'm not terribly well-informed on the topic, but I believe that Aleppo is the first modern instance of total siege warfare on a city. It's been a long, long time since we've had to witness an entire population starving and dying in front of us. If they still had functioning cell towers in the area, the world would be in an absolute panic at this point. There are very, very bad things happening there.
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Re: Aleppo

Post by DrYouth » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:29 am

So basically Assad vs Rebels...

How does this go down geo-politically at this point?

Who is backing these particular rebels?
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Re: Aleppo

Post by Montegriffo » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:52 am

DrYouth wrote:So basically Assad vs Rebels...

How does this go down geo-politically at this point?

Who is backing these particular rebels?
So much more complicated than that. You have rebels and Assad both fighting IS while at the same time fighting each other.
Think China in WWII where both sides of the civil war attacked the Japanese but had no truce between each other.
It's the complication and the lack of a clear enemy/ally distinction which has kept the west out of the conflict so far.
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