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Re: Earth matters

Post by GloryofGreece » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:40 pm

Is it mostly an economic "developed" national thing to be able to care about the environment and psychologically maslow's hierarchy of needs. So you have more people in the Western World that have the $, time, and ability to care essentially? Or does actual culture and Western values factor into it a lot? Certainly many indigenous cultures pre modernity viewed the Earth and nature overall differently and maybe even had a more harmonious relation to it. At least not as wasteful (?) Is there anything inherent *(besides economics) that influences South and East Asian cultures to care less for the environment? Certainly, Japanese culture seeks harmony within and outside nature. How about Sub Saharan or Arabic culture? These are curious things to ponder.
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Re: Earth matters

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:42 pm

The common argument is that it is only a matter of economic development.

Color me quite unconvinced of that.

Since when is China not developed? I think the Monties of the world too quick to project their own temperament upon other peoples. It is not safe to assume foreign people and races share your temperament and values.

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Re: Earth matters

Post by GloryofGreece » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:52 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:42 pm
The common argument is that it is only a matter of economic development.

Color me quite unconvinced of that.

Since when is China not developed? I think the Monties of the world too quick to project their own temperament upon other peoples. It is not safe to assume foreign people and races share your temperament and values.
Very true.
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Re: Earth matters

Post by Montegriffo » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:47 am

A vehicle made from recycled plastic aims to reach the south pole using solar power.

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Post by Montegriffo » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:00 am

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Post by Montegriffo » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:16 pm

The University of Cambridge has said removing beef and lamb from its menus has cut food-related carbon emissions by a third.

The university's catering service replaced the meat with plant-based products for its 14 outlets and 1,500 annual events from October 2016.

Prof Andrew Balmford, from the university, said it had "dramatically reduced their environmental footprint".

But farmer Judith Jacobs said it was "short-sighted" and "denied choice".

The university measured its carbon footprint in a three-month period in 2015, before the changes, and the same period in 2018.

It said that overall carbon emissions across the catering service were reduced by 10.5%.

There was a 33% reduction in carbon emissions per kilogram of food purchased, and a 28% reduction in land use per kilogram of food purchased.
'The right choice'

Scientists have said beef and lamb produce most farm greenhouse gases and have argued the number of sheep and cattle in the UK should be reduced to help combat climate change.

Prof Balmford, professor of Conservation Science at the university, advised the catering service on the changes.

He said: "It is hard to imagine any other interventions that could yield such dramatic benefits in so short span of time."

However, Rachel Carrington from farm union NFU said it was "disappointing the university is taking this overly-simplistic approach".

The NFU have launched its own plan to become carbon neutral in two decades and Ms Carrington said the university should "source locally-produced beef and lamb".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-c ... e-49637723
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:27 pm

Imagine the money to be made opening a BBQ pit next to campus.

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Post by Montegriffo » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:42 pm

Cambridge University is right in the middle of the city. There are plenty of nearby options.
Unfortunately, the article doesn't say if on-campus sales were affected by removing beef and lamb.
A reduction in sales would reduce their carbon footprint.
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Post by Montegriffo » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:50 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-46459714
To find out the climate impact of what you eat and drink, choose from one of the 34 items in our calculator and pick how often you have it.
Beer 1-2 times a week = 52kg of CO2 per year. Or the equivalent of driving 133 miles

beef 1-2 times a week = 604 kg or 1542 miles

Tofu 1-2 times a week = 12kg or 32 miles

Therefore if you eat tofu instead of beef you can drink over 10 times as much beer
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Re: Earth matters

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:22 pm

It is so ridiculous, man.