Trump's Push to Keep American Businesses Here

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Re: Trump's Push to Keep American Businesses Here

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:30 pm

Xenophon wrote:Steering the thread back on topic...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won ... 29cd02fc46
President-elect Donald Trump announced Tuesday that Japanese telecom and internet conglomerate SoftBank would invest $50 billion in the United States and create 50,000 new jobs, saying that the decision wouldn't have been made without Trump's election win.

Trump appeared in the lobby of the Trump Tower on Tuesday with Masayoshi Son, the chief executive of SoftBank, to announce the news, and later on Twitter claimed credit.
First Carrier, now this? This is definitely good press for the president-elect. Certainly, the liberals will start ankle biting, but they'd do that with anything Trump does. The speculation is that this was already on the table anyway, but given that the CEO of SoftBank made a point to appear with Trump, who knows?

De.O, can you edit this SoftBank article into the OP? I really like the idea of keeping a running tally on this issue.

Good'n Xeno.
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Re: Trump's Push to Keep American Businesses Here

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:02 pm

DrYouth wrote:The British System, The Magna Carta, was a compromise between Nobility and Monarch...

Making the monarch responsible to the landowners.

And the leftists would overthrow that relationship to have the landowners responsible to an ignominious commune.
The French and American Revolutions were extrapolations on that theme - empowering citizens - the French to a greater extreme than the American.

Nonsense, both revolutions were incited by an aristocracy, the leftist Jacobins made the citizens subject to a commune which resulted in a terror, then when the citizens tried to overthrow that, a military dictatorship was imposed by force, the American planting aristocrats awarded no citizenship, there was no American citizenship until 1865, the Miracle of the American revolution, in stark contrast to the French, is that for the first and only time in history, the land owners asserted individual sovereignty by force of arms under the same divine mandate claimed by kings.
Fukuyama feels that the success of the state involves the balance of power of power blocks within the state... essentially holding one another accountable.

Isn't that the Neocon cuck who declared the end of history in 1992?
The Right tends to favour the entrenched interests... nowadays that leans towards corporate interests and business owners.
No, the right favours the sovereignty of the individual over the prerogatives of a commune, particularly regarding property rights.
The Left tends to advocate for the interests of the disenfranchised, the working class and protection of vulnerable groups.
So they tell themselves, but nothing is more disenfranchising and repressive than the leftist militarized nanny police state, particularly for the working classes and vulnerable.
The health of society involves the balance between power blocks. That none are hamstrung, that all are accountable.

Society can get on just fine without the left, nothing says the opposition needs to be a commune.
When the left dominates, unions become bloated and inefficient, entitlements and pensions become unworkable, regulations on businesses become unwieldly, businesses and banks become unaccountable, workers are exploited and unprotected, the commons is neglected.
FIFY
A healthy society requires balance...

Which will only be restored, when the insurgents of the left are brought to heel, and we hang their commune therein.

Those of the right should not be so naive to think that the left is seeking "balance", please, the left is seeking to render all conservative thought to being "thought crime", there's comes a time, where it is no longer sufficient to defend the right, but to defend the right to be of the right itself, and since there can be no middle ground with a commune, a commune which does not adhere to the terms of any parley, nor brook any opposition therein, it becomes an impasse which cannot be resolved by simply voting the left out, rather, the right must fight fire with fire, by counterrevolution against the leftist insurgency bent on the absolute overthrow of our prerogatives.
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Re: Trump's Push to Keep American Businesses Here

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:43 am

Smitty-48 wrote:Those of the right should not be so naive to think that the left is seeking "balance", please, the left is seeking to render all conservative thought to being "thought crime", there's comes a time, where it is no longer sufficient to defend the right, but to defend the right to be of the right itself, and since there can be no middle ground with a commune, a commune which does not adhere to the terms of any parley, nor brook any opposition therein, it becomes an impasse which cannot be resolved by simply voting the left out, rather, the right must fight fire with fire, by counterrevolution against the leftist insurgency bent on the absolute overthrow of our prerogatives.
The only one advocating violence against their ideological opponents around here is you Smitty.

I know that the Bolshevik bogeyman has you quaking in yer jackboots, but no need to be a bore about it.
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Re: Trump's Push to Keep American Businesses Here

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:57 am

Violence as necessary but not necessarily violence, bear in mind, when you attack a leftist entrenched interest, even when you have mandate to do so, there will be resistance, they will insurge to defend their interests, where the right needs to find its mettle, is simply not quailing in the face of the resistance, if your mandate is waylaid, then force must be employed to impose it, which will likely involve some violence inevitably, but as the resistance is invariably outside the bounds of parley and in contravention of the mandate therein, force is warranted, and all force is violence in the end, musn't be squeamish, being squeamish about enforcing mandates in the face of leftist insurgents, is to capitulate, the time for refusing to capitulate, is upon us.

There's nothing to fear in using force, of course the left wing media will hyperventilate about it, but so what? How many divisions does the left wing media have? None. The media has no credibility, the bourgeoisie are docile, there will no consequences for using force, other than that our mandates will be enforced, and rightly so.

It is simply time, to call the bluffs of the left, where they threaten insurgency in the face of our mandates, as insurgents we must treat them, and how does one treat an insurgent? Well you certainly use brute force as necessary, even if not necessarily brute force.

The idea that no one advocates violence against their ideological opponents, is utter nonsense, of course we do, all sides will resort to force of one sort or another, and all forces is violence in the end, it's just a question of who has the resolve to prevail, regardless of the hysterical blubbering about it in the media.
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Re: Trump's Push to Keep American Businesses Here

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:18 am

Does that mean we can refer to 'Market Forces' as 'Market Violence' from now on?

I would also like, for the record, to state that I am tired of being oppressed by the violence of gravity.
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Re: Trump's Push to Keep American Businesses Here

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:21 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Does that mean we can refer to 'Market Forces' as 'Market Violence' from now on?

I would also like, for the record, to state that I am tired of being oppressed by the violence of gravity.
Yes, certainly, Market Forces are violent indeed, just as Creative Destruction is indeed destruction, and when you fall from a very great height, no doubt gravity has a violent conclusion for you at the end as well.

I'm not squeamish about it, I'd be fine with calling it Market Violence, I am not opposed to force nor violence at all, no market pacifist am I, and never was.
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Re: Trump's Push to Keep American Businesses Here

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:15 am

Not 'can market forces be violent.'

More, 'market violence leads to automation.'
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Re: Trump's Push to Keep American Businesses Here

Post by Paulo » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:45 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Xenophon wrote:Steering the thread back on topic...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won ... 29cd02fc46
President-elect Donald Trump announced Tuesday that Japanese telecom and internet conglomerate SoftBank would invest $50 billion in the United States and create 50,000 new jobs, saying that the decision wouldn't have been made without Trump's election win.

Trump appeared in the lobby of the Trump Tower on Tuesday with Masayoshi Son, the chief executive of SoftBank, to announce the news, and later on Twitter claimed credit.
First Carrier, now this? This is definitely good press for the president-elect. Certainly, the liberals will start ankle biting, but they'd do that with anything Trump does. The speculation is that this was already on the table anyway, but given that the CEO of SoftBank made a point to appear with Trump, who knows?

De.O, can you edit this SoftBank article into the OP? I really like the idea of keeping a running tally on this issue.

Good'n Xeno.
Did he twit it about? If not, hummmm. :D

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Re: Trump's Push to Keep American Businesses Here

Post by Paulo » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:47 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Xenophon wrote:Steering the thread back on topic...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won ... 29cd02fc46
President-elect Donald Trump announced Tuesday that Japanese telecom and internet conglomerate SoftBank would invest $50 billion in the United States and create 50,000 new jobs, saying that the decision wouldn't have been made without Trump's election win.

Trump appeared in the lobby of the Trump Tower on Tuesday with Masayoshi Son, the chief executive of SoftBank, to announce the news, and later on Twitter claimed credit.
First Carrier, now this? This is definitely good press for the president-elect. Certainly, the liberals will start ankle biting, but they'd do that with anything Trump does. The speculation is that this was already on the table anyway, but given that the CEO of SoftBank made a point to appear with Trump, who knows?

De.O, can you edit this SoftBank article into the OP? I really like the idea of keeping a running tally on this issue.

Good'n Xeno.

Did he twit it about? If it is not in his twits, I have doubts. :-)

Sorry for the double post.
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Re: Trump's Push to Keep American Businesses Here

Post by Paulo » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:51 am

Smitty-48 wrote:Violence as necessary but not necessarily violence, bear in mind, when you attack a leftist entrenched interest, even when you have mandate to do so, there will be resistance, they will insurge to defend their interests, where the right needs to find its mettle, is simply not quailing in the face of the resistance, if your mandate is waylaid, then force must be employed to impose it, which will likely involve some violence inevitably, but as the resistance is invariably outside the bounds of parley and in contravention of the mandate therein, force is warranted, and all force is violence in the end, musn't be squeamish, being squeamish about enforcing mandates in the face of leftist insurgents, is to capitulate, the time for refusing to capitulate, is upon us.

There's nothing to fear in using force, of course the left wing media will hyperventilate about it, but so what? How many divisions does the left wing media have? None. The media has no credibility, the bourgeoisie are docile, there will no consequences for using force, other than that our mandates will be enforced, and rightly so.

It is simply time, to call the bluffs of the left, where they threaten insurgency in the face of our mandates, as insurgents we must treat them, and how does one treat an insurgent? Well you certainly use brute force as necessary, even if not necessarily brute force.

The idea that no one advocates violence against their ideological opponents, is utter nonsense, of course we do, all sides will resort to force of one sort or another, and all forces is violence in the end, it's just a question of who has the resolve to prevail, regardless of the hysterical blubbering about it in the media.

Violence as necessary but not necessarily violence, bear in mind, when you attack a rightist entrenched interest, even when you have mandate to do so, there will be resistance, they will insurge to defend their interests, where the left needs to find its mettle, is simply not quailing in the face of the resistance, if your mandate is waylaid, then force must be employed to impose it, which will likely involve some violence inevitably, but as the resistance is invariably outside the bounds of parley and in contravention of the mandate therein, force is warranted, and all force is violence in the end, musn't be squeamish, being squeamish about enforcing mandates in the face of rightists insurgents, is to capitulate, the time for refusing to capitulate, is upon us.

There's nothing to fear in using force, of course the right wing media will hyperventilate about it, but so what? How many divisions does the rigth wing media have? None. The media has no credibility, the bourgeoisie are docile, there will no consequences for using force, other than that our mandates will be enforced, and rightly so.

It is simply time, to call the bluffs of the rigth, where they threaten insurgency in the face of our mandates, as insurgents we must treat them, and how does one treat an insurgent? Well you certainly use brute force as necessary, even if not necessarily brute force.

The idea that no one advocates violence against their ideological opponents, is utter nonsense, of course we do, all sides will resort to force of one sort or another, and all forces is violence in the end, it's just a question of who has the resolve to prevail, regardless of the hysterical blubbering about it in the media.

Yes, that works.