Jill Stein Recount

[Ex-California]

And your guys' name changes are

[clubgop]

Then if there is such a tradition and ritual it needs to be mandatory and on a weekend.

The only traditions and rituals now make it overcomplicated at every step of the way, from registering to recounts.

I'll even go for voting IDs to make it a simple electronic transaction

We could talk about a weekend. I suspect it won't make much of a difference. I assure the poor downtrodden whatever the fuck you grouse about will still have to get transport and mostly will still be working. Mandatory? Nope never, talk about democracy that is an anathema to democracy. The electronic voting is a moot point for me you have to convince your fellow leftist of that before you ever get to me.
https://www.wired.com/2016/08/americas- ... -election/
http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/09/technol ... -election/
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/her ... ic-voting/
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... tes-214144

And that is just the first page in a google search under the term "electronic voting" no other keywords, no bias, no nothing. Good luck.

I'm not talking about using current technology.

Australia has mandatory voting and they are just fine. In fact, better off than us

Yeah the definition of "mandatory" has enough exceptions to drive a hummer through and mandatory also means you sign in and then walk out you don't even have to take a ballot.

[clubgop]

So we should accept that the states will never accomplish much of anything, and are in fact just more distributed tax collection systems because 'corruption is everywhere but we can still make a stench first'?

You just explained all goverments everywhere throughout history, so yeah.

So now that we've exposed your absolute hypocrisy, and the total failure of your argument, you defend yourself with "Yeah, but that's how it is".
Well done, noble poster. You've truly wasted 2 pages worth of our reading time. Thanks for shitting the bed once again.

Hypocrisy not exposed maybe ability to spilt hairs.

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.

You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they exhausted all the alternatives.

[SuburbanFarmer]

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.

That there is the rub. Change is coming, my friend.

[clubgop]

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.

That there is the rub. Change is coming, my friend.

All over your face I reckon.

[Atherzon]

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.

That there is the rub. Change is coming, my friend.

Would you mind elaborating on this new form of government that you see coming?

[de officiis]

The court battle in Michigan is becoming . . . well, let's just say it's complicated.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fed ... aa037f3537

U.S. District Judge Mark Goldsmith on Wednesday night halted a Michigan election recount launched by Green Party nominee Jill Stein . . . .
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Goldsmith’s Wednesday decision undoes an order he issued early Monday morning requiring the state to proceed with a recount by noon that day and jettison a planned two-day waiting period. Goldsmith made that judgment with the intention of enabling the state to complete the recount by Dec. 13, the deadline needed to allow for sufficient time before the Electoral College meets on Dec. 19.

Goldsmith insisted at the time that any state court decision to halt the recount on the merits of the recount claim itself would require an additional ruling by him to proceed. On Tuesday, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit upheld Goldsmith’s ruling.

But in Goldsmith’s Monday ruling, he only weighed in on the timing of the recount, not the merits of the case for it. And moments after the 6th Circuit’s decision on Tuesday, a panel of judges on the Michigan Court of Appeals ruled that Stein was not an “aggrieved party” with standing to call for a recount, since her fourth-place finish was too distant for a new tally to redress the effects of any alleged electoral tampering.

The Michigan Court of Appeals’ decision did not take effect immediately, however, since the 6th Circuit had upheld Goldsmith’s order that his court needed to rule on any additional cessation of the recount.

As a result, the case went back to Goldsmith on Wednesday. The federal judge, who had not previously deliberated on the merits of the case, effectively agreed with the opinion of the Michigan Court of Appeals that Stein is not an “aggrieved party.”

He also rejected Stein’s additional argument that there is a constitutional right to demand an election recount without an extremely tight margin or substantial evidence of election tampering or fraud.

“There is no case law recognizing an independent federal right to a recount that either this Court or the parties have come across, in the absence of actual deprivation of voting rights,” Goldsmith wrote.

Sounds like a roundabout way of saying, "you're wasting our time."

[Atherzon]

Left activists have wasted a lot of money this year. First, they were Berned. Now, they've been Jillted.

[clubgop]

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.

That there is the rub. Change is coming, my friend.

Would you mind elaborating on this new form of government that you see coming?

6'2" well built.

[SuburbanFarmer]

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.

That there is the rub. Change is coming, my friend.

All over your face I reckon.

That was good. Nice one.