Europe, Boring Until it's Not

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:37 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:53 am
Now that the racists are locked in cages, maybe the police will focus on prosecuting Muslim rape gangs and jihadi terrorists.
Despite what your right wing sources tell you being a Muslim does not give you immunity from crimes.
Perhaps if the Tory austerity policies hadn't removed 20,000 police officers from the streets there would be less crime.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by BjornP » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:43 am

C-Mag wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:45 am
Poland cancelling tolerance indoctrination for gender dysphoria
https://apnews.com/adf839c37719411e80a97a22eb936be7

I Love the Poles. They are carving their own path, that is right for their people and saying Fuck all the SJW shit globalist and Brussels try to push on them.
Did you actually read the article? :| Nothing in the actual article supports your personal headline, dunno where you get the notion that the NGO must be SJW, or globalist, or that it's Brussels (or anyone) forcing Poland to let men into women's bathrooms or whatever bullshit.

Don't you time and again label yourself a "classical liberal", Carlus? What's classically liberal about a strongly centralized government forcing schools (note it does not distinguish between private and public) to only adhere to their OWN ideology? Do you support "filthy collectivistis" when they happen to want to ban everything you don't really like?
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:50 am

Some people will openly support dictatorships if it means they can virtue signal about the evil immigrants...
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by The Conservative » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:10 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:50 am
Some people will openly support dictatorships if it means they can virtue signal about the evil immigrants...
Oh... wait. I got a response to that...
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by BjornP » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:12 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:50 am
Some people will openly support dictatorships if it means they can virtue signal about the evil immigrants...
True. It's a wonder how East European Big Government welfare states with stricter free speech laws than the UK suddenly became such big heroes among some American Conservatives, who traditionally support classically liberal values. I think they think that only the European right is against EU centralization, only the European right is against the politically correct, pseudo-academic postmodern bullshit. So they delude themselves, force themselves, into thinking that only "The" Right is fighting that fight. And of course, they opt to support the most extreme because that's the only thing their media can be bothered to focus on.

They could just support the European classically Marxist parties... they're just as much against SJW bullshit, want EU dismantled (unlike the Polish government, btw), and they're the ones who yell the loudest about the exploitation of cheap labor that fostered the EU's inter-EU open borders policy (The Open Market).

Or... at least, just vote for some more moderate conservatives - you know, of the sort who don't want to dismantle the advances in liberty the former Warsaw Pact countries agreed on, following the fall of the USSR.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by C-Mag » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:27 am

Poland could leave EU
"The matter is dramatically serious, the risk is deadly serious. I want everybody to come to their senses," the EU Council president, who was Polish prime minister until 2014, told press in Warsaw on Monday (5 November).

"It doesn't matter to me whether Jaroslaw Kaczynski plans to leave the EU, or just initiates some processes that lead to that outcome," Tusk said, referring to the head of Poland's ruling Law and Justice (PiS) party.
https://euobserver.com/uk-referendum/143301
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by C-Mag » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:35 am

I don't say this lightly, Britain is staring at the death of their great historic Kingdom and Empire

Britain Opens Army To Foreign Nationals As Youth Increasingly Refuse To Sign Up
Amidst the British Army's worst troop shortage since 2010, foreign nationals will now be allowed to enter military ranks according to a policy change by the Ministry of Defence announced Monday. What essentially amounts to a mercenary recruitment drive is meant to stem the tide of a worsening recruitment crisis in the armed forces as local youths increasingly refuse to sign up.
History is pretty clear on this point. When you have to rely on mercenaries to fill your military, it signals the end of your nation. Oh, it doesn't happen the next day or the next year, but it will happen. This is fucking sad. I have thoroughly enjoyed and respected my time serving with UK allies.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11- ... efuse-sign
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by BjornP » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:40 am

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:27 am
Poland could leave EU
"The matter is dramatically serious, the risk is deadly serious. I want everybody to come to their senses," the EU Council president, who was Polish prime minister until 2014, told press in Warsaw on Monday (5 November).

"It doesn't matter to me whether Jaroslaw Kaczynski plans to leave the EU, or just initiates some processes that lead to that outcome," Tusk said, referring to the head of Poland's ruling Law and Justice (PiS) party.
https://euobserver.com/uk-referendum/143301
That's the head of the EU saying that Kaczynski wants Poland out of the EU. He's effectively being slandered by a scaremonger. A "referendum on EU" does not equal exit from the EU. Here's what he says himself on the issue:

https://polska.pl/social-issues/social/ ... -question/
The party conference on Saturday showed that PiS will pursue its own ideas for European integration following the Brexit result. Jaroslaw Kaczynski described the result of the Brexit referendum as “a disintegration that should worry us all.”

“Poland cannot simply give up and let other, more stronger, countries take over. The initial proposals put forward by these strongest members envisage further disintegration,” he said, referring to ideas put forward by the foreign minister of Germany and France about deeper integration focused on the eurzone.

In his opinion, Poland should prose “reintegrating the EU”. The condition for this, however, is that the EU needs to change. “We want a Union composed of nations committed to the principle of mutual assistance,” Kaczynski said. According to this principle, the EU would only focus on issues which cannot be resolved independently by member states.


During his speech at the Platforma political convention, Grzegorz Schetyna criticized Kaczynski: “PO wants a strong Poland in Europe, one that wants further integration. The enemies of Poland and the EU are not Germany of France, but rather xenophobia, nationalism and hate,” he said. He added that Poland has “one master of division, but there are many diligent pupils.”
And also, here:

https://euobserver.com/uk-referendum/143301
Tusk's warning on accidental "processes" came after PiS meddling in the judiciary triggered a European Commission sanctions procedure against Poland last year.

It also came after a PiS minister, last month, asked the Polish Constitutional Tribunal whether EU courts had primacy over national ones, questioning a core pillar of EU membership.

But for his part, Kaczynski has dismissed alarmism on 'Polexit' as an opposition "propaganda" stunt designed to discredit his side.

"We've always been pro-European, in the sense of supporting Polish EU membership," the PiS chief said last month.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by The Conservative » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:41 am

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:35 am
I don't say this lightly, Britain is staring at the death of their great historic Kingdom and Empire

Britain Opens Army To Foreign Nationals As Youth Increasingly Refuse To Sign Up
Amidst the British Army's worst troop shortage since 2010, foreign nationals will now be allowed to enter military ranks according to a policy change by the Ministry of Defence announced Monday. What essentially amounts to a mercenary recruitment drive is meant to stem the tide of a worsening recruitment crisis in the armed forces as local youths increasingly refuse to sign up.
History is pretty clear on this point. When you have to rely on mercenaries to fill your military, it signals the end of your nation. Oh, it doesn't happen the next day or the next year, but it will happen. This is fucking sad. I have thoroughly enjoyed and respected my time serving with UK allies.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11- ... efuse-sign
You want an example of Rome.... this is a perfect example.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:42 am

Yeah, John Hawkwood merc'd all over Italy, and where is Rome now?
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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